"In-the-knows" have painted themselves into a corner

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i agree. time to put heads together and go after the scammers who have taken everyone for a ride.
the info providers claim to have connections with these scammers start with them and you'll eventually get to these criminals.

Good call.
These so called info providers should be held accountable for praying on the emotions of people who are in dire financial crisis'.

Let's start with the basic information on the 3 major con artists: SI_VIP,1ITK and Link2SI. Anybody have any onfo on them?

Before I get in this I want to know what scam have they pulled? Which HYIP? How much money was involved etc.

[qoute]WHOIS information for: powergroup.biz:
[whois.nic.biz]
Domain Name: POWERGROUP.BIZ
Domain ID: D12269533-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: MELBOURNE IT LTD
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 13
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: Isabella Camerra
Registrant Name: Powergroup Ltd
Registrant Organization: Private Registration US
Registrant Address1: P O Box 99800
Registrant City: EmeryVille
Registrant State/Province: CA
Registrant Postal Code: 94662
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.5105952002
Registrant Email: contact@myprivateregistration.com
Administrative Contact ID: B119895352100850
Administrative Contact Name: Admin PrivateRegContact
Administrative Contact Organization: Private Reg US
Administrative Contact Address1: P O Box 99800
Administrative Contact City: EmeryVille
Administrative Contact State/Province: CA
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 94662
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.5105952002
Administrative Contact Email: contact@myprivateregistration.com
Billing Contact ID: A113856705024253
Billing Contact Name: Bill PrivateRegContact
Billing Contact Organization: Private Reg US
Billing Contact Address1: P O Box 99800
Billing Contact City: EmeryVille
Billing Contact State/Province: CA
Billing Contact Postal Code: 94662
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.5105952002
Billing Contact Email: contact@myprivateregistration.com
Technical Contact ID: C113856707973240
Technical Contact Name: TECH PrivateRegContact
Technical Contact Organization: Private Reg US
Technical Contact Address1: P O Box 99800
Technical Contact City: EmeryVille
Technical Contact State/Province: CA
Technical Contact Postal Code: 94662
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.5105952002
Technical Contact Email: contact@myprivateregistration.com
Name Server: YNS1.YAHOO.COM
Name Server: YNS2.YAHOO.COM
Created by Registrar: MELBOURNE IT LTD
Last Updated by Registrar: MELBOURNE IT LTD
Domain Registration Date: Sun Jan 29 20:39:13 GMT 2006
Domain Expiration Date: Wed Jan 28 23:59:59 GMT 2009
Domain Last Updated Date: Sat Dec 29 18:46:57 GMT 2007[/quote]

Hahaha nice try Forbe2, if only you paid a little atention to details such as "DATE" of registration. This site was sold to the present owners in July 2007. So the name that was posted was the former owner of that domain.

You want to know who's Topcat, I can tell you as I know him from other forums, in fact as a Mod in another now-defunct HYIP. But that's going to cost you. See I follow the money too.

It is CLEAR that the scammers behind EV are trying to divert the attention AWAY from themselves.
Let's look at their history: first they were giving people $10 to sign up EV (to "help" them recovery their "loses" from SI. So after millions deposted, they paid a few just to look legit. Then EV went bust so they pointed finger at someone else. Everything is coldly calculated to scam you.
Now the heat is getting closer so they're creating a diversion to some SI forum.

All the while trying to recruit YOU to join them for another lawsuit to go after SI parent company AFTER payout! Hah what a plan. You think you're that smart Bill and Francozz?

It won't work this time around, any scam and con with your names on it is a plague.

[ojala]

Let's do a quick recap -- there are all kinds of unregistered ppl here asking for information about the info providers - to what end??? It would seem that there is no benefit in playing with those who are still hopeful, and these info providers are not asking for anything for themselves and claim to be investors as well...

There are charges that others who would seem to be condemning these info providers are trying to stir people up to have them join a POST payout lawsuit? That is the charge I am reading... so there would be a motive for the not hopeful to play with the still hopeful emotions.....

So who stands to gain by all this name calling, identity revelation and discrediting of possibly sincere guys . . .

All I can find is you have to choose which one you see as the more credible, those that have an end motive of greed and personal gain are far more likely to be the villian in a story.

I hope to the heavens that folks will really consider who is on the dark side....

Originally Posted by ojala

Let's do a quick recap -- there are all kinds of unregistered ppl here asking for information about the info providers - to what end??? It would seem that there is no benefit in playing with those who are still hopeful, and these info providers are not asking for anything for themselves and claim to be investors as well...

There are charges that others who would seem to be condemning these info providers are trying to stir people up to have them join a POST payout lawsuit? That is the charge I am reading... so there would be a motive for the not hopeful to play with the still hopeful emotions.....

So who stands to gain by all this name calling, identity revelation and discrediting of possibly sincere guys . . .

All I can find is you have to choose which one you see as the more credible, those that have an end motive of greed and personal gain are far more likely to be the villian in a story.

I hope to the heavens that folks will really consider who is on the dark side....

Those that you acuse of having such a motive all know that this was a scam from the start. There is no payout. There never will be any payout. So your theory of some post-payment grab conspiracy doesn't make much sense.

The *fact* that the "in the knows" have mislead members through a continuing pattern of obviously false information for two years stands as much more compelling evidence of who's in the wrong here.

On the other side, most are just tired of watching this pitiful abuse of other trusting souls.

Oh yeah? so their crime was "you think" they know it's a scam and wanted to play with your feelings, Is that it?

Ever thought of maybe they really believed it? Who in their right mind will waste 2 years of their time just to play with you?

What I want to know is what scams have they come up with? no one has answered my question.

A know scam artist (Bill Martinoli, aka WMJKC aka AD) accuses everyone else of being involved in a scam while pleading his innocence and victim hood.

Sue bill, sue everyone. sue SI,budi, pingman,phattai, topcat, powergroup forum, php forum, anyone who criticizes you on your forum, all the info providers, all the people who believed it, and dont forget Al Gore for inventing the internet.

blithering idiot

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hahaha nice try Forbe2, if only you paid a little atention to details such as "DATE" of registration. This site was sold to the present owners in July 2007. So the name that was posted was the former owner of that domain.

You want to know who's Topcat, I can tell you as I know him from other forums, in fact as a Mod in another now-defunct HYIP. But that's going to cost you. See I follow the money too.

Check out the date when the site was last modfied and you will have all your answers.
As soon as this information became public, details were removed the very next day.
I have confirmation from my own investigations that TopCat IS feline and she is not US born either.
If YOU want more reliable information, it will cost you.