"In-the-knows" have painted themselves into a corner

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ok yeah? And Pinetree gave daily updates, communicated for several hours a day on international calls, set up extensive moderator networks and , and , and , and , and ,...........for 2 years?

**** Pinetree

For Swisscash as one example on the way with no signs of giving up. But not unique. Plenty of others who do the same. So SI has gone on for a long time. Nothing special there other than being an extreme case versus most. You can find the true believers for DXSynergy, PIPs, and plenty of others all aggregated somewhere.

Because somebody set up a free private forum doesn't make it real. Not much required to do it and it's self-sustained by the members once it's up. Again not unusual since they end up frustrated in the larger open forums because people there all know these programs are scams and never coming back and don't let them play that game so the steadfast tend to move somewhere that they can better control things to their point of view. And you can clearly see how that's worked with those now for SI.

Extensive moderator networks? Sounds impressive but all it really means is marking some guy as a moderator for a forum where they're a regular participant and hanging around anyway. Not that it doesn't take some work, but it's not costing anyone anything other than some time that they're willing to put in on their own.

Not having anybody caught, at least yet, in the case of SI leaves it without closure and more open to rumour and speculation than some since there's no real information out there to constrain it otherwise. But guess what? Even when they are caught and it comes out that it absolutely, undeniably was a scam, and even when admitted directly by the operators as in the case of CEP, there *still* will be some who won't accept it and will continue the 'they will be back.....', 'it's a mistake......,' 'government conspiracy involving.....,' routines complete with on-going rumours to support it.

Boy, did you hit the nail on the head, or what!!!! Great post!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ok yeah? And Pinetree gave daily updates, communicated for several hours a day on international calls, set up extensive moderator networks and , and , and , and , and ,...........for 2 years?

**** Pinetree

YM is a true idiot.He's been around erasing posts on several forums,bit like chicosan.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Boy, did you hit the nail on the head, or what!!!! Great post!!

Great post? Good to see that irony and sarcasm are still alive and well

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Great post? Good to see that irony and sarcasm are still alive and well

You´re puking of sarcasm.

I to agree. It was a good post. Ofc ppl without logics doesnt agree.

Man sentenced to 14 years for $70 million investment scheme
From Staff Reports
TUESDAY, MAY. 6, 2008

UPDATED 6:02 PM
A former Kernersville man will spend 14 years in federal prison for his role in a $70 million retirement investment scheme.
Scott B. Hollenbeck, 53, of Orlando, Fla., was sentenced Tuesday, according to a press release from U.S. Attorney George E. B. Holding.
A federal jury found Hollenbeck guilty of conspiracy and mail fraud in February.
During the four-week trial, prosecutors said the scheme involved convincing victims to invest in Mobile Billboards. But the company was a fraudulent Ponzi scheme, where money from new investors was used to make payments to previous investors, and to enrich the defendants, court records show.
Hollenbeck was an insurance agent and leading salesman of Mobile Billboards, according to court records. He was responsible for about $10 million in sales, mostly in and around Kernersville, records show.
Also sentenced:
• Michael A. Lomas, age unknown, of Pasadena, Calif., to 20 years after pleading guilty to mail fraud;
• Laurinda Holohan, 63, of Concord, Ohio, to six years and four months, after a jury found her guilty of conspiracy and mail fraud;
• Susan Knight, 48, of Eastlake, Ohio, to two years and six months, after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud;
• Arthur J. Anderson Jr., 49, of Raleigh, to five years, after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud.
Another man accused of being a part of the scheme, Michael L. Young, 61, is still being sought, authorities said.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You´re puking of sarcasm.

I to agree. It was a good post. Ofc ppl without logics doesnt agree.

Oooh I'm scared. It was such a departure from logic that there was no inclination to respond. Go ahead and fawn at the feet of an imbecilic dissimulator.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Man sentenced to 14 years for $70 million investment scheme
From Staff Reports
TUESDAY, MAY. 6, 2008

UPDATED 6:02 PM
A former Kernersville man will spend 14 years in federal prison for his role in a $70 million retirement investment scheme.
Scott B. Hollenbeck, 53, of Orlando, Fla., was sentenced Tuesday, according to a press release from U.S. Attorney George E. B. Holding.
A federal jury found Hollenbeck guilty of conspiracy and mail fraud in February.
During the four-week trial, prosecutors said the scheme involved convincing victims to invest in Mobile Billboards. But the company was a fraudulent Ponzi scheme, where money from new investors was used to make payments to previous investors, and to enrich the defendants, court records show.
Hollenbeck was an insurance agent and leading salesman of Mobile Billboards, according to court records. He was responsible for about $10 million in sales, mostly in and around Kernersville, records show.
Also sentenced:
• Michael A. Lomas, age unknown, of Pasadena, Calif., to 20 years after pleading guilty to mail fraud;
• Laurinda Holohan, 63, of Concord, Ohio, to six years and four months, after a jury found her guilty of conspiracy and mail fraud;
• Susan Knight, 48, of Eastlake, Ohio, to two years and six months, after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud;
• Arthur J. Anderson Jr., 49, of Raleigh, to five years, after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud.
Another man accused of being a part of the scheme, Michael L. Young, 61, is still being sought, authorities said.

Are you going to list for us the other 4000+ mail frauds which were prosecuted in the US over the past year?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oooh I'm scared. It was such a departure from logic that there was no inclination to respond. Go ahead and fawn at the feet of an imbecilic dissimulator.

Nobody said a thing threatening or about being scared. That's all from you. Which shows that even as used in your sarcastic manner it hits too close to home.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You mean VIPs like the Idens, the most prominent of the VIPs on the old forum, who eventually admitted that they lied about being paid and ended up being stiffed like everyone else and who are still around on other forums?

Or VIPs like some of the large online investment clubs such as Ace Invest and some others that have their own independent forums that were never paid and still haven't been?

Or the VIPs that all met at Trustx? You remember, the source of the gold trustx.gif certification seal on the front page. The site where the older offline VIPs were said to meet and where some pretending to be VIPs on the old forum claimed that the "Mafia" was watching so they couldn't talk openly. A site that actually they set up themselves and that was created by a Russian guy who makes porn sites and didn't even have a forum attached to it?

Or Martin Shoberg, the VIP who was featured on another fake personal site that they also set up?

Or the VIP prospects that received copies of Sam's fake passport?

Or any of the real people who stupidly put crazy amounts of money into SI that should have made them VIPs but were never granted "official" VIP status, many of whom still are around the various forums and still haven't been paid?

Or the other VIPs and offline investors who supposedly have been paid but nobody can show actually exist?

Which VIPs would those be?

Are any of you cheerleaders gonna respond to this or are you hoping it will go unnoticed?

You are probably going to ignore it because you don't have the answers and are wondering if your sources are now correct and whether your beliefs in payouts are going to prove fruitfull. After all when the end of May comes and no payouts then there is always June, July, August, September etc.

Why don't you simply put a stop to this and provide unambiguous proof of a single payout? You won't because you all hide behind the ficticious NDA and "I don't have to provide proof" crappy slogan you have adopted when ONE single shred of evidence will put a stop to this PERIOD.

How do you think Robert Dyson felt when the bank laughed him out of the boardoom because they didn't believe in his working prototype? You expect people to believe in payouts when you don't even have a prototype just the motto "Keep the faith. Payouts will be soon"