"In-the-knows" have painted themselves into a corner

Originally Posted by Unregistered

They have not heard of Solid Investment or Jungle Ventures or Sam Colins or Raphael Sosa.
In fact they were explicit to mention that they would NEVER be involved with any online investment which is a HYIP or involved with the sales of unlicensed securities.
Looks like someone has received information contrary to the truth.

No surprise at all.Just another pack of lies from the cheerleaders as usual.

The mushrooms love the BS though.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No surprise at all.Just another pack of lies from the cheerleaders as usual.

The mushrooms love the BS though.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people can be so gullible to actually believe that a legitmate investment company like Nomura would actually have anything to do with an online investment scam which basically sold unlicensed securities and which has had no intent of paying anyone.
Raphael Sosa would be the last person one would believe and to think that if he had already deceived investors as far back as 2006 what makes anyone think that SI would suddenly turn around and pay their investors out of the goodness of the hearts.
I also challenge anyone to provide credible, verfiable information about this German Court. So much has been said about it yet not one person has actually seen it (except for Pingman whose credibility is in question here since he hasn't even shown it to Budigower. Don't ask you won't believe the BS that has been flying around in the background).
So just one person who can provide even a snippet from the documentation of the court order.
There is no evidence of it ever existing and yet we have cheerleaders suggesting that a payout is imminent.
What these people fail to acknowledge is that in the absence of this court order, there is no case for a claim and the only people who have received anything from SI are those who lodged claims with Scott Hare & Associates.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I just wanted to say thanks to all of you, from the bottom
of my heart, (tear forming), for unselfishly devoting sooooo
much of your time here. AND, for blessing us, with what
seems to be, endless pearls of wisdom.

thanks again...
sniff...

In the absence of providing any logical response it always pays to resort to repetitive discourse as proof of ones ignorance and stupidity.

Here are some examples of the intellectual level of the mushrooms forum:

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject:
NOwwww Paa !!! Gol Dang no good Hatfields .. Paaa yaz noz dat ya shuld knot be a talkin bout dem dat way . yuz gunna get yer dander up anz denz ya be a blastin sumone .. Paaaa!! now yaz be kareful wid dat der shotgun .. Gol dang Hatfields bein talk too much anz Ima gunna hafta lern em a thing er too I am .. Ohh noo!!! Paaa! put dat der kannun away .. Rass a frass .. be fillin it wid rocks an nails denz I be gettin me sums sleep .. Paaaa fer lands sakes whaaddya doin .. Dis ones fer Burrr ... Ohhh Paaa !! looky
wat ya dun now why yaz blew a hole da size of our barn in da Hatfields house .. Hee Hee !! dun dem a favor I did .. whole house air conditioning .. Ya know Pa I be dinkin yaz need a new hobby .. Gol dang chatty Kathy de izzz .. Whaddya gunna do ??
Signed Klem Kadiddlehopper


Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject:
Ya ya .. I know there are some that do not understand English and so they use translators .. Fine, its an American forum Love it or leave it .. Wooffff Woooffff .. Weasels weigh 15 pounds not dogs ..
Signed Great Dane

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Here are some examples of the intellectual level of the mushrooms forum:

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject:
NOwwww Paa !!! Gol Dang no good Hatfields .. Paaa yaz noz dat ya shuld knot be a talkin bout dem dat way . yuz gunna get yer dander up anz denz ya be a blastin sumone .. Paaaa!! now yaz be kareful wid dat der shotgun .. Gol dang Hatfields bein talk too much anz Ima gunna hafta lern em a thing er too I am .. Ohh noo!!! Paaa! put dat der kannun away .. Rass a frass .. be fillin it wid rocks an nails denz I be gettin me sums sleep .. Paaaa fer lands sakes whaaddya doin .. Dis ones fer Burrr ... Ohhh Paaa !! looky
wat ya dun now why yaz blew a hole da size of our barn in da Hatfields house .. Hee Hee !! dun dem a favor I did .. whole house air conditioning .. Ya know Pa I be dinkin yaz need a new hobby .. Gol dang chatty Kathy de izzz .. Whaddya gunna do ??
Signed Klem Kadiddlehopper


Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject:
Ya ya .. I know there are some that do not understand English and so they use translators .. Fine, its an American forum Love it or leave it .. Wooffff Woooffff .. Weasels weigh 15 pounds not dogs ..
Signed Great Dane

Obviously, who else could be this imbecile.

TheOscar54
Active Member
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 377

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Obviously, who else could be this imbecile.

TheOscar54
Active Member
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 377

sounds like 1-up-hiz-azz-ho! LMFAO!!!

To what end is your motive for disclosing this kind of information? As an "info-provider," I want to take a moment to dispel some of the dis-information being perpetrated here and at other forums, to be sure.

Let me save you some leg-work. I am semi-active at the PG forum, having been banned at the SI "External" forum by "Pong"man. (I think that is funny as hell). My user ID is Ljade243 and my name is Todd.

This can be verified by those who are members at the PG forum, I will post confirming that I am who I profess to be.

I am choosing to write this narrative for a couple reasons:

First, I try to maintain objectivity. This is more often than not, very difficult from all perspectives. Frankly, ALL of the forums lack objectivity, including this here at WLD. Many here are "WLDeeple" as much as those at the other forums are SHeeple (sorry, I probably blew the spelling of that one away).

Second, the general perception on this forum, of the info-providers, concludes they (we) are nothing more than a concoction of unemployed teenie-boppers with nothing better to do than dick with hundreds, if not thousands of folks, many of whom are holding on to their homes and farms, by a thread. Many of these "investors" (gamblers is probably more appropriate), including myself, have lost everything, including their self-respect as a result of this venture known as Solid-Investment.

Third, the vast majority (if not all) of (publicly) verifiable information supports those of you whom are convinced SI's Court Ordered payout, Sam Colins and anything else purported to validate this entire SI matter, is nothing more than a complete joke.

Well, I'm coming to this forum today, not so much to defend the principals, managing partners or share-holders of SI (assume for the sake of this point, the venture is legitimate) as it could only be described as pathetic, at best; rather to, as much as possible, explain the mind-set of an "info-provider."

Of those you have listed above, only a couple are info providers. You have included forum administrators, moderators and some of the more outspoken forum members; some of whom I respect, some I don't and some I know very little, if anything at all, about. (Not that my personal respect for someone matters or not, because it doesn't; it's just one person's opinion).

Before I continue, I have a question that never really gets the full answer it deserves. The objective of the SI and PG forums is, in large part, to distribute payout information to those forum members who CHOOSE (very important word) to believe an SI payout is forthcoming or don't think a payout is coming, but in the event one does, they want to know when, where, how etc. Again, the important element is "choice."

My question today is, what is the purpose or objective of this (the WLD SI "fraud") forum? The obvious answer is..."to show the world that the HYIP Solidinvestment is, was and always has been a fraudulent, PONZI scam..."

To that end, haven't you already made your case, quite successfully I might add? Thus far (to date), the only real ascertainable or maybe a better word is "verifiable" facts support the position that SI is a scam.

So really, the only way the WLD Forum participants will ever be happy is when the "pro" SI forums cease to exist (in any tangible way), those who have, in good faith, sought to provide information they have received from sources they have found to be credible, be put in jail and all of those former believers now pay homage to those who can bask in the glory that 40, 50 or 60 thousand SI investors were indeed the victims of perhaps one of the most intricate and orchestrated heist to have ever been committed.

Anyone, regardless of their level of desperation, given the current state of economic affairs, in the eyes of this (the WLD) community, who holds out hope for a miracle (given all of the facts stacked against the viability of a successful payout), are (again, in the eyes of this WLD community), nothing more than a bunch of losers.

If you take a hard look, you will find very little, if any difference between the two "valid" SI forums and this "fraud" SI forum at WLD with a couple of marked distinctions - here, there is the ability for anyone to post ANYTHING about anyone with complete and total, reckless disregard for a forum participant's safety, character and assassination thereof, privacy or confidentiality, in a manner devoid of any discernable means of identification.

In a nutshell, it's open season here at WLD. More often than not, those whose "voices" are heard the loudest are those participants with superior writing skills and can successfully rally the troops most successfully; the monologue may be well articulated, but often the facts are distorted.

To be fair, much of what is written here IS accurate and should be discussed, but in a manner that is intelligent and moderated. WLD has thought better to not moderate any of their forums, the reasons should be obvious. If you take a glance at the WLD policy with regards to privacy, misrepresentation of one's self or better said, assuming the persona of someone other than one's self, you will find that more often than not, civil and criminal violations have manifested with damages starting at 25k liquidated. (liquidated - for those of you with a limited legal background, I encourage you to review "liquidated damages).

At this point, I would like to discuss some of those folks you feel so compelled to make known to the world, those who have no interest in SI, who no more care about a payout than if it rains in Siberia tomorrow...

I have spoken with a couple on the phone, and a couple others I have "chatted" with on-line, rather extensively. Some have decent communication skills, others should probably hibernate and never deal with the human element, EVER. Some obviously, have esteem issues while others are just pricks and will never change.

There are a couple things I can state categorically. NONE, not one of any of those persons you have so irresponsibly brought forth has ANY motive that could be construed as disingenuous in ANY fashion.

Let me qualify this statement. None of those, whom I have come to know personally; and there are a couple on your list whom I have never connected with, are guilty of or culpable for intentionally misleading ANYONE in regards to SI, in ANY capacity.

All of those with whom I have had the privilege of corresponding, have neither the time nor the interest in further perpetuating a fraud, if that is indeed what has truly manifested.

EVERY "info-provider" has an interest in seeing this matter come to fruition. Every "info-provider" receives information and data from their contact, some of whom are linked closer (in terms of fiscal operations) than others. The data however, with little exception is transparent in spite of the source.

If the info-providers (myself included) are guilty of anything, in the event this thing fails to materialize, it could only be our naiveness and trust in those who we depend on for our information. Is that a risk? Of course. Every member who has logged into any of these forums understands this risk. Nobody is forced or asked to accept the provided information as Gospel.

Equally important and which is stressed continuously, the information that is provided on these forums is only as good as that which is provided to us. If those contacts we relied on have all collaborated to extend the agony and frustration that every info-provider, administrator, moderator and member experienced for the last two years, all I can say is..."those unregistered forum members at WLD were right!"

It is my sincerest hope, for those of you here at WLD who took a gamble and put some bank into SI, that you are wrong. Unfortunately, to date, you all have been correct; but to fault the info-providers is dubious.

Think about it....if you were brought into an information (perceived) goldmine and you have done whatever due diligence you are able, what then?

You either share it, with the appropriate disclaimer(s) or you keep it to yourself. These forum members have been queried and have chosen to receive the information despite the limited ability to verify.

The disclosure of sensitive, personal information concerning someone who, in their mind and heart, are truly trying to keep others up to date with developments, though it may be inaccurate, faulty or just plain wrong, is far more unethical and illegal than anything we are attempting to accomplish at our respective forums.

Finally, I ask once again what, specifically, is it you are looking for which will empower you (when I say "you," I am referring to the collective WLD forum members) to say that you have prevailed?

The seed of doubt? That has remained a permanent fixture in every SI investor's brain since July 04, 2006.

The incarceration of the info-providers, administrators and moderators? Well, to do so, you would have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that we, as info-providers, knowingly and willingly perpetrated a fraud which resulted in bodily injury or property damage. There is no intent.

Payment of damages by the "sheeple" to those of you who remained steadfast in your belief that SI always was a fraud? Well if that is indeed your position, maybe the preponderance of evidence will show you all knew something we didn't shifting the culpability to those of you who had knowledge up front....

Needless to say, these are legal scenarios which will never manifest.

It is my sincerest hope you all are wrong and will enjoy any monetary gain(s) should this payout happen. If the future is anything like the past, I guess all we can say is

"fool me once, shame on you, fool me 13,457 times, shame on me, or someone."

Thank you for allowing me your time...

lj

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:03 am Post subject:
's by four.
Slow and steady day.
So we bunker down for the long weekend.
Everything is secure. Master files are kept in safe keeping, whilst copies are used for processing purposes only, thus errors cannot occur and items cannot go missing. Everyone will get their notice and access.
Cheers Budi absolutely glorious day for beach walking.

Unfortunately not in this lifetime.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:03 am Post subject:
's by four.
Slow and steady day.
So we bunker down for the long weekend.
Everything is secure. Master files are kept in safe keeping, whilst copies are used for processing purposes only, thus errors cannot occur and items cannot go missing. Everyone will get their notice and access.
Cheers Budi absolutely glorious day for beach walking.

Unfortunately not in this lifetime.

Budi's updates have deteriorated to the point of almost being pitiful now.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Budi's updates have deteriorated to the point of almost being pitiful now.

There's nothing left to say. Even BS budi is finding it hard to write anything vaguely plausible. To make matters worse,several former SIheeple are now begining to question the "next week" attitude and never ending promises.

Even the sturdiest mushrooms must be tired of hearing the same old BS,day in day out.