"In-the-knows" have painted themselves into a corner

SOLID INVESTMENT AGENDA HAS BEEN IN THE MAKING FOR 60 YEARS!

The Bretton Woods system of international monetary management established the rules for commercial and financial relations among the world’s major industrial states. The Bretton Woods Agreements was signed during the first three weeks of July 1944.

The underlying agenda then was to enhance world trade by making available funds for the purpose of growing remote and emerging economies. Essentially, part of the profits from the issuing and trading of financial and governmental securities is aligned to be made available for these initiatives.

Much of this initiative had been lost into the hands of the few extremely wealthy participants and corporations who have aligned themselves away from this purpose.

It is the potential of the many compassionate and aligned members of SI that the original agenda can now be realised with significantly greater outcomes than ever imagined back in 1944.

For without clean water, clean air, abundance of nutritious food and a safe haven we cannot possibly progress along the pathway for which we are here. These are the critical issues for much of the world.

It is the unwritten agenda of SI to enable those of its membership access to the resources to support the overriding purpose of its establishment, which is to allow us members, once we have resolved our own financial and security issues, to consider and share in the alleviating of those issues which prevent our fellow man from being able to realise who and what he is.

The rewards offered to you are no different to that for the apple merchant who goes to the markets each morning and buys / sells on the day taking a margin. SI just does this much more efficiently and in higher volumes.

Yes, this same process by which you are participating through SI has been available to you since 1944, though the entry thresholds were and are beyond the reach of us mere individuals.

The fairness of the equality of payouts is beyond question because the purpose is beyond question and the rewards are fantastically conducive to the betterment of all of us and for those we come in contact with.

Yes, you are deserving of your rewards and yes you will be paid out.

The only way that the finance required to address the underlying issues of clean air, clean water, nutritious food and safe haven can be assembled and accessed is through the methodology made accessible to you now by SI.

Thus, your participation in the income streams made accessible to you by SI is in alignment with the highest possible agenda.

You may have seen in budigower's recent writings that he mentions clean water, clean air, nutritious food and safe haven as the basics. I think we need to look at these four areas and have armies or people dedicated to bringing them to humanity.

Without air we live a few minutes; no water a few days, no food a few weeks and without safe haven, we cannot grow spiritually at all.

The clean air and water, and the nutritious food are areas where there is much technology which can provide the answers. Mostly it works and has been developed by "wierdos". The technology is mostly sustainable and very cheap. That is why there is so much opposition to it by the Big Boys of the world.

This is where I see Pascas can unite all the small players, the wierdos, and the innovators to deliver a world which a new consciousness can flourish.

We strongly believe Sam Collins has created SI so this good can be funded. He might not be fully aware of what he has set in motion as yet.

Come on Sam - let us all loose.

Nowureez

[Langnes]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is PB He is Professor Peter Blanche. My dear friend and confidant, author of the Open Letter (Post #1412) I think it is time I put him forward, my like minded friend and cohort. I was trying to shield him, being near retirement and his family lives in Sweden by my adopted home of Norway. But it is time to publish his truth.
SI cannot pay, there is not enough money in the world. He explains it all in his brilliant open letter. He is an authority, teaching English to people who don't speak English, phonetically, and highly educated in this practise. He has written papers on the subject, and teaches at Kumamoto Gakuen University in Japan which even Wiki states is a second level school.
Ah, well, I don't take much stock in Wiki, it is not Dutch. He has also been involved in calling Swisscash a scam, and was right about that, wait and see if he is not right about SI. He has to be, he is a professor!!!!

I thought Forbe2 was the swiss cash swindler. His names (Ben Wright Ong, John Horan) are all over google. Between Forbe2 and WMJKC, that is two scammers calling everyone else scammers. The fish shiit in the pond scum of humanity. Hey Forbe, did you get your emails? There are some people looking for you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

He might not be fully aware of what he has set in motion as yet.

Old Sammy knew exactly what he was doing. He set you up alright. LOL

Isn't it time for all this placing of pictures and revealing of names to cease? Both sides of this debate need to exhibit some modicum of decency. Each side thinks the other is the villain while at the same time acting villainous themselves. The only purpose for all your behavior is to "hurt" each other or cause embarrassment and personal pain. To snipe at each other is one thing but to intend harm and distress on another person, no matter how much you think it is justified, diminishes us all.

I have a petition for all of you.

Could we call a truce for the period starting today and have it continue for one week, that is to and through next Friday, August 15th. Then, if nothing happens of any substance, have at it in accordance with the venom that remains in all of you for as long as you wish.

If nothing happens those intent on bashing SI and it's adherents will have additional ammunition to volley even more vigorously. If something positive occurs then it will be a moot point.

Please, for one week, one peaceful week, one civil week, one week of decency even to those we abhor, cease in this policy of personal destruction and provide a glimmer of hope that we are better than this.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Isn't it time for all this placing of pictures and revealing of names to cease? Both sides of this debate need to exhibit some modicum of decency. Each side thinks the other is the villain while at the same time acting villainous themselves. The only purpose for all your behavior is to "hurt" each other or cause embarrassment and personal pain. To snipe at each other is one thing but to intend harm and distress on another person, no matter how much you think it is justified, diminishes us all.

I have a petition for all of you.

Could we call a truce for the period starting today and have it continue for one week, that is to and through next Friday, August 15th. Then, if nothing happens of any substance, have at it in accordance with the venom that remains in all of you for as long as you wish.

If nothing happens those intent on bashing SI and it's adherents will have additional ammunition to volley even more vigorously. If something positive occurs then it will be a moot point.

Please, for one week, one peaceful week, one civil week, one week of decency even to those we abhor, cease in this policy of personal destruction and provide a glimmer of hope that we are better than this.

I agree with you that posting pictures and personal information for people who are only maginally involved isn't right.

Not sure what you're trying to get to with your call for a "truce" though. Look up to the top of this page where it says "Money Frauds and Scams > Solid Investment (SI)" and beyond that it's relatively clear what the predominent view is here. Nothing anyone here says is going to affect some outcome that you seem to expect in the next week or beyond that one way or another. Also, it's not like there's some kind of active inter-forum battle going on where people here are running over there and and causing problems. Unless maybe you think that people here being able to speak openly and counter to the "party line" of the more tightly controlled forums is somehow troublesome. If anything, it's been just the the opposite with the "positive trolls" coming over here. If you don't like the content or tone of what you read here, then there's a very simple solution -- don't come and read it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I agree with you that posting pictures and personal information for people who are only maginally involved isn't right.

Not sure what you're trying to get to with your call for a "truce" though. Look up to the top of this page where it says "Money Frauds and Scams > Solid Investment (SI)" and beyond that it's relatively clear what the predominent view is here. Nothing anyone here says is going to affect some outcome that you seem to expect in the next week or beyond that one way or another. Also, it's not like there's some kind of active inter-forum battle going on where people here are running over there and and causing problems. Unless maybe you think that people here being able to speak openly and counter to the "party line" of the more tightly controlled forums is somehow troublesome. If anything, it's been just the the opposite with the "positive trolls" coming over here. If you don't like the content or tone of what you read here, then there's a very simple solution -- don't come and read it.

Simple. The petition is for one week of cessation of hostilities, no more or less. I have followed this whole ordeal and am not a prude or incapable of enjoining in the fray. It's that the entire back and forth can withstand a 7 day respite because the escalation that is inherent in the disposition of the parties involved is reflective of a degenerating character and a brief retreat to the respective camps should not be too much to ask of honest interests.

Give hostilities a rest for one week. Are you saying this is beyond your ability toward civility?

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Wondering why those forums are full of fanatic ignorants, take a look at one of their main Gurus speech, the next step will be asking members for money while they receive their millions:

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Simple. The petition is for one week of cessation of hostilities, no more or less. I have followed this whole ordeal and am not a prude or incapable of enjoining in the fray. It's that the entire back and forth can withstand a 7 day respite because the escalation that is inherent in the disposition of the parties involved is reflective of a degenerating character and a brief retreat to the respective camps should not be too much to ask of honest interests.

Give hostilities a rest for one week. Are you saying this is beyond your ability toward civility?

Again, respite from what exactly? People here being able to say whatever they want however they want? And btw that includes the "positive trolls." Nobody censors anybody's view here other than per the forum's own rules. That does get messy at times but overall probably preferable to the alternative.

As I said, I think that posting personal information about non-involved parties is over the line myself, but beyond that specifically what "hostilities" are you seeking to get some relief from? Making fun of Budi's needle-stuck-in-the-record-groove updates? Hell, they do that to some extent over there. Posting information that challenges the accepted story because it does? Making fun of them for hanging on to what most any rational person would agree is a relatively ridiculous story? Calling it a scam when the subject of the forum itself is Money Frauds and Scams > Solid Investment (SI)? Calling people idiots when they try to do dumb sh*t like posting fake notices? LOL I mean come on, what kind of response do you expect?

Also, typically a truce involves concession on all sides. Are Budi and the rest going to stop posting what most here would consider misleading updates and other information? Are they going to allow completely open discussion and address reasonable questions asked in a perfectly reasonable way such as those that finishrich brought up about why no independent information can be found regarding the legal settlement? If you want to see hostility, take a look at the responses that he got.

Sounds to me like you're not asking for a truce as much as you're just plain asking people here to shut the F up. LOL Which is fine if that's what you want to ask for, but I doubt that you'll get it from either side.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Again, respite from what exactly? People here being able to say whatever they want however they want? And btw that includes the "positive trolls." Nobody censors anybody's view here other than per the forum's own rules. That does get messy at times but overall probably preferable to the alternative.

As I said, I think that posting personal information about non-involved parties is over the line myself, but beyond that specifically what "hostilities" are you seeking to get some relief from? Making fun of Budi's needle-stuck-in-the-record-groove updates? Hell, they do that to some extent over there. Posting information that challenges the accepted story because it does? Making fun of them for hanging on to what most any rational person would agree is a relatively ridiculous story? Calling it a scam when the subject of the forum itself is Money Frauds and Scams > Solid Investment (SI)? Calling people idiots when they try to do dumb sh*t like posting fake notices? LOL I mean come on, what kind of response do you expect?

Also, typically a truce involves concession on all sides. Are Budi and the rest going to stop posting what most here would consider misleading updates and other information? Are they going to allow completely open discussion and address reasonable questions asked in a perfectly reasonable way such as those that finishrich brought up about why no independent information can be found regarding the legal settlement? If you want to see hostility, take a look at the responses that he got.

Sounds to me like you're not asking for a truce as much as you're just plain asking people here to shut the F up. LOL Which is fine if that's what you want to ask for, but I doubt that you'll get it from either side.

Not shut the f--- up, rather a cessation of combating interests for just ONE WEEK, JUST ONE WEEK! Have at it after that, JUST ONE WEEK, can you refrain FOR JUST ONE WEEK?

Noticing that it is just you and I discussing this, perhaps those on either side are actually considering it. Can "you" refrain for JUST ONE WEEK. Is there no consideration of you for such a pause. JUST ONE WEEK!

Selah, pause and think on that.