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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 03:42 PM     #1821
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Well let's see it then. Post the e-mail with headers with your specifics X'ed out. If you're unhappy with them as you've said, then you should have no problem posting it. If you don't know how, then we'll help.

Now why is it that I expect a response with some reason why this won't be done? LOL
The payout amount was only 30 cents to the dollar and not what we were told.

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From: XXXXXX@XXXXXXXX.com
To:
CC:
Subject: Solid Investment Final Settlement Payout.


Dear Investor,

We have received your Bank Wire order:

AMOUNT TO SEND: USD XXXXX.XX


Full Name: XXXXXX XXXXX

Address:

Bank account number or IBAN: XXXXX-XXX-XXXXX

Bank name: XXXX XX XXXXXXX

Bank address:

SWIFT code / ABA Routing no.:

Memo of wire: CREDIT & ADVISE

Additional details: IMMEDIATE TRANSFER

Allow 24 hours to process your order and 48 hours for International Bank Wire.

Thank you for the opportunity to serve you, Solid Investment Team.
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 03:58 PM     #1822
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The payout amount was only 30 cents to the dollar and not what we were told.

No headers. That's what we need to see. Without anyone can just type up the same thing.
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 04:24 PM     #1823
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From: XXXXXX@XXXXXXXX.com
To:
CC:
Subject: Solid Investment Final Settlement Payout.


Dear Investor,

We have received your Bank Wire order:

AMOUNT TO SEND: USD XXXXX.XX


Full Name: XXXXXX XXXXX

Address:

Bank account number or IBAN: XXXXX-XXX-XXXXX

Bank name: XXXX XX XXXXXXX

Bank address:

SWIFT code / ABA Routing no.:

Memo of wire: CREDIT & ADVISE

Additional details: IMMEDIATE TRANSFER

Allow 24 hours to process your order and 48 hours for International Bank Wire.

Thank you for the opportunity to serve you, Solid Investment Team.


I smell bullsh*t.

A. How would they know your banking information in advance of you replying? If that's not the initial notice, then let's see it too again with full headers.

B. Bank account numbers typically aren't given in the form XXXXX-XXX-XXXXX

C. No SWIFT/ABA number.

D. "Advise" is misspelled. It should be adviCe.

E. It should be addressed from the group handling the settlement not the "Solid Investment Team."
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 04:39 PM     #1824
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No headers. That's what we need to see. Without anyone can just type up the same thing.

I haven't received my notice yet like the e-mail example posted above but this call for seeing a header makes me a little nervous. Are you really an ex-solidinvestment account holder? You see if you were you would know that the daily e-mails from them and the final payout e-mail NEVER came with it. Here's the last one I received from them.

From: do_not_reply@solidinvestment.com
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 2:05 AM
To: XXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXX.net
Subject: SI Special Plan Over

Dear Investor,

Your special Plan Term has been finished.

You can now withdraw XXXXX.XX USD at Bank wire or E-currency account.

Thank you for the opportunity to serve you, Solid Investment Team.



I dug this out of my old SI folder but have long removed it from my Outlook so I did have to reproduce it here simply in text. But a real SI investor would know there was never a header accompanying emails and that the official header only appeared when you logged into the old web-site. So even if the above person can't afford a lawyer right now I wouldn't look for advice from the group that inhabits this part of the forum.

I'm not sure you really want to help and IMHO should not be trusted with any current document from any real SI investor. You seem more concerned with proving this to yourself than being of any real assistance to someone who has just experienced a great disappointment.
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 04:39 PM     #1825
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I smell bullsh*t.

A. How would they know your banking information in advance of you replying? If that's not the initial notice, then let's see it too again with full headers.

B. Bank account numbers typically aren't given in the form XXXXX-XXX-XXXXX

C. No SWIFT/ABA number.

D. "Advise" is misspelled. It should be adviCe.

E. It should be addressed from the group handling the settlement not the "Solid Investment Team."
dude you need to go back to school man.
Encarta Dictionary : English (UK)
ad.vise (verb)
transitive and intransitive verb to offer a personal opinion to somebody
spelt with an s or c
• e.g. : I won't choose until somebody can advise me.
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 04:46 PM     #1826
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dude you need to go back to school man.
Encarta Dictionary : English (UK)
ad.vise (verb)
transitive and intransitive verb to offer a personal opinion to somebody
spelt with an s or c
• e.g. : I won't choose until somebody can advise me.
I agree. Depending on which part of the world you are from. The same word is sometimes spelt differently.
I believe in this case the spelling is of English i.e. UK origin.
Makes no difference anyway. This is not a spelling-bee.
This is about an investment notice.
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 04:54 PM     #1827
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You seem more concerned with proving this to yourself than being of any real assistance to someone who has just experienced a great disappointment.
dude that would have to be the greatest understatement.
the info providers have stuffed up big time.
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 04:56 PM     #1828
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I haven't received my notice yet like the e-mail example posted above but this call for seeing a header makes me a little nervous. Are you really an ex-solidinvestment account holder? You see if you were you would know that the daily e-mails from them and the final payout e-mail NEVER came with it. Here's the last one I received from them.

From: do_not_reply@solidinvestment.com
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 2:05 AM
To: XXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXX.net
Subject: SI Special Plan Over

Dear Investor,

Your special Plan Term has been finished.

You can now withdraw XXXXX.XX USD at Bank wire or E-currency account.

Thank you for the opportunity to serve you, Solid Investment Team.



I dug this out of my old SI folder but have long removed it from my Outlook so I did have to reproduce it here simply in text. But a real SI investor would know there was never a header accompanying emails and that the official header only appeared when you logged into the old web-site. So even if the above person can't afford a lawyer right now I wouldn't look for advice from the group that inhabits this part of the forum.

I'm not sure you really want to help and IMHO should not be trusted with any current document from any real SI investor. You seem more concerned with proving this to yourself than being of any real assistance to someone who has just experienced a great disappointment.


All email has header information. Depending on your settings you may not see it, but it's there. If you're using the current version of Outlook, then from the list of messaged you can right-click to highlight and select the message. A menu will be displayed. At the bottom of that menu you'll see a selection for Message Options. If you select that, then a box will come up with with an area at the bottom that shows the full headers for the message.

The reason for asking for the header information isn't sinister. It simply provides details that show the source and routing of the email that are much harder to manufacture than someone simply typing out what appears to be a notice. I have no ulterior motive here, I just don't like people putting up information like this with nothing to support that it's real. If someone wanted to just screw with people, they could easily send an email like that with the apparent source spoofed.

That's why I asked for the headers and I specifically said that they should delete any identifying information before sending or that I would if they didn't know how.
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 05:07 PM     #1829
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dude you need to go back to school man.
Encarta Dictionary : English (UK)
ad.vise (verb)
transitive and intransitive verb to offer a personal opinion to somebody
spelt with an s or c
• e.g. : I won't choose until somebody can advise me.

"Dude" YOU need to go back to school. Advise is a verb. In this case it's used as the noun. In that case the word is "advice." As in "payment advice" versus incorrectly as "payment advise."

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I agree. Depending on which part of the world you are from. The same word is sometimes spelt differently.
I believe in this case the spelling is of English i.e. UK origin.
Makes no difference anyway. This is not a spelling-bee.
This is about an investment notice.

Not in this case. It's spelled the same ways as above depending on how used whether in American or British English.

The difference that it makes is that a misspelling like that, particularly in what likely would be a coded element not something individually written, is another element among others that makes the posted notice suspect.
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Old Aug 6th, 2008, 05:21 PM     #1830
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"Dude" YOU need to go back to school. Advise is a verb. In this case it's used as the noun. In that case the word is "advice." As in "payment advice" versus incorrectly as "payment advise."



Not in this case. It's spelled the same ways as above depending on how used whether in American or British English.

The difference that it makes is that a misspelling like that, particularly in what likely would be a coded element not something individually written, is another element among others that makes the posted notice suspect.
From what you've described, that element could well be an insertion by the recipient of the notice who could have made a simple error not fully appreciating the nature of the word being used as a verb or a noun.
It still does not dismiss the posting as a fake.
I tend to agree that a header would definitely authenticate the posting.
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