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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 12:06 PM     #1701
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So Mr know-it-all why don't you use some of your vast SI knowledge and give some replies to these statements. Or are you going to resort to insults because you have nothing factual to say in response to these.





I am sure we are all ears to hear what you have to say. Or maybe we can just look in our inbox for the answer.
Justifiable challenge but Im afraid that it will never happen.
Its the usual scenario, when the hard questions are being asked, the response is usually one of insult or vague at the very best.
Why? Answer : How can anyone reply with significant comprehension when they have to refer to the details which have been posted for the last 2 years?
Details which have shown a regular pattern of inconsistency.
When there is no logic in what is being reported and when the simplest of verifiable evidence is not available.
Pure faith? Thats exactly what those who have been believing in this process have been driven on and all this while not one shread of evidence is shown that all this is real.
In the mean time, we are expected to believe that Solid Investment is real. That they have been taken over by a legal banking entity and are right now in the process of paying out billions of dollars to individuals who were foolish enough to deposit funds via an e-currency exchange.
It has been reported that approximately 1000 notices were sent out last week. All in the 9 figure range. Do the maths and see if this is even remotely viable.
This week, more notices in the 9 figure range is supposedly going to be issued.
At this rate, most of the former SI investors are going to have funds beyond the earning of Donald Trump who by the way would probably see this as an insult to his empire since it has taken him decades to achieve this level of wealth while all this time, all he would have needed to do was invest in Solid Investment and wait for a couple of years to be paid.
So think about it and ask yourselves, is this even remotely possible?
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 12:09 PM     #1702
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Coward! You throw out a name implicating an individual and you hide like a slobbering troll in your sewer pipe.
Simon or whatever your real name is.
Give it up.
Game over.
By the way, we play by the very same rules which you started so before you point a finger have a good look at what you have started/done.
Not very pretty when the shoe is on the other foot is it?
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 12:40 PM     #1703
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Justifiable challenge but Im afraid that it will never happen.
Its the usual scenario, when the hard questions are being asked, the response is usually one of insult or vague at the very best.
Why? Answer : How can anyone reply with significant comprehension when they have to refer to the details which have been posted for the last 2 years?
Details which have shown a regular pattern of inconsistency.
When there is no logic in what is being reported and when the simplest of verifiable evidence is not available.
Pure faith? Thats exactly what those who have been believing in this process have been driven on and all this while not one shread of evidence is shown that all this is real.
In the mean time, we are expected to believe that Solid Investment is real. That they have been taken over by a legal banking entity and are right now in the process of paying out billions of dollars to individuals who were foolish enough to deposit funds via an e-currency exchange.
It has been reported that approximately 1000 notices were sent out last week. All in the 9 figure range. Do the maths and see if this is even remotely viable.
This week, more notices in the 9 figure range is supposedly going to be issued.
At this rate, most of the former SI investors are going to have funds beyond the earning of Donald Trump who by the way would probably see this as an insult to his empire since it has taken him decades to achieve this level of wealth while all this time, all he would have needed to do was invest in Solid Investment and wait for a couple of years to be paid.
So think about it and ask yourselves, is this even remotely possible?

Still no picture attached to a passport, authentic, forged or any other identification document of a person claiming to be the Sam Colins of the Solidinvestment investment program.

If you didn't think it was remotely possible then why did you invest yourself. You must be easily scammed and since you are so easily moved to reckless behavior of what value is your understanding about all this now? You are only asserting what you "think" and how you "feel" and we all know what a gold standard that is.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 01:07 PM     #1704
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Still no picture attached to a passport, authentic, forged or any other identification document of a person claiming to be the Sam Colins of the Solidinvestment investment program.

If you didn't think it was remotely possible then why did you invest yourself. You must be easily scammed and since you are so easily moved to reckless behavior of what value is your understanding about all this now? You are only asserting what you "think" and how you "feel" and we all know what a gold standard that is.
What would be the point of posting a picture of Sam Colins when the said individual does not exist?
Dont you get it? It's been a lie from the start and even the VIP's (those who were supposedly privy to more information about the company) were tricked into believing that this man was real.
Nothing about this investment has been real or solid for that matter. It's been a scam all along and as always, the truth comes to the surface as people are forced to research this extended lie and what a discovery it has been.
Reckless behaviour? Perhaps.
Unlike many I extracted what I could, when I could but to continue supporting a lie? I dont think so.
There is a disparity between thought and feeling and this disparity is narrowed by knowledge.
Knowledge of the lies and desceit has lead to this conclusion and it is the only conclusion that makes any sense.
Dont cloud the issues. Respond to the statement in this thread and prove once and for all if there is one iota of truth in any of the 'information' which has been presented by these so called sources.
Dispel any doubt that these info providers are credible, reliable, endorsed channels of communications.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 01:10 PM     #1705
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No need to look here is the statement :
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- a sketchy web site that read like every other HYIP scam.

- the fact that they used anonymous payment systems like every other HYIP.

- that they were hosted by a company that deals only with HYIP scams.

- the unrealistic returns promised typical of every other HYIP scams.

- the warnings from the government of Belize that it was a scam.

- the lack of proper registration to sell or act as agents for investment opportunities.

- the fake passport for "Sam Colins" that they provided to prospective VIP investors.

- that you can directly tie use of common servers and other resources to them and previous scams.

- that they directly created fake shill sites like trustx.com and the martin shoberg site to promote their program.

- that they employed shills to promote the program including their most prominent "VIPs" who later admitted to lying about being paid.

- that "Raphael Sosa" didn't appear to speak English, Spanish, or Portugese, but had tendencies in his writing that reflected Eastern European/Russian dialects.

- that e-mail headers on direct correspondence from them showed an Eastern European/Russian origin, they used a mail client common to the same areas, and also routed mail through hacked/zombied computers that can be tied to those used by a known group of scammers.

- that the story about their bird "flue" research investment was laughable.

- that they did not defend themselves at all against legal action that froze and confiscated all known funds remaining in accounts after they disappeared.

- that there has been no communication from SI or any party representing them since they disappeared.

- that there have been no even remotely verifiable payments to anyone including thousands of investors at many larger forums where. statistically, you'd expect to see more of these reports just based on numbers of users, the only rumours being at the two forums.

- that these two forums were founded by those who were the left over believers after everyone else moved on, including several persons who are well known for spreading the same types of rumours for every HYIP scam that they are in that fails.

- that there is no independently verifiable information that can be found to support any of the rumours regarding SI's parent company, Sam Colins, any German court cases, German Judges, or anything else that's been claimed.

- that examining the numbers of investors and dollar amounts invested based on archived pages from SI's site at various times shows that there weren't enough members or dollars in play to support the numbers claimed with respect to many multiple $100 million payouts.

- that many other aspects of the stories related to the ongoing payment tale are very obviously false and ridiculous on their face.

- most importantly that no actual members of any of the forums have been paid despite a wide distribution of timing for their investment and range of amounts that should have seen something by now to the extent that it approaches a virtual statistical impossibility.
Now disprove any one of the statements above.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 01:18 PM     #1706
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Justifiable challenge but Im afraid that it will never happen.
Its the usual scenario, when the hard questions are being asked, the response is usually one of insult or vague at the very best.
Why? Answer : How can anyone reply with significant comprehension when they have to refer to the details which have been posted for the last 2 years?
Details which have shown a regular pattern of inconsistency.
When there is no logic in what is being reported and when the simplest of verifiable evidence is not available.
Pure faith? Thats exactly what those who have been believing in this process have been driven on and all this while not one shread of evidence is shown that all this is real.
In the mean time, we are expected to believe that Solid Investment is real. That they have been taken over by a legal banking entity and are right now in the process of paying out billions of dollars to individuals who were foolish enough to deposit funds via an e-currency exchange.
It has been reported that approximately 1000 notices were sent out last week. All in the 9 figure range. Do the maths and see if this is even remotely viable.
This week, more notices in the 9 figure range is supposedly going to be issued.
At this rate, most of the former SI investors are going to have funds beyond the earning of Donald Trump who by the way would probably see this as an insult to his empire since it has taken him decades to achieve this level of wealth while all this time, all he would have needed to do was invest in Solid Investment and wait for a couple of years to be paid.
So think about it and ask yourselves, is this even remotely possible?


Exactly right.

Don't forget that those forums were not created for the purpose of conveying objective information about SI. Very much to the contrary, they were created by and for those specifically wanting ONLY a positive viewpoint.

At one point this clearly positive slant was openly admitted. Somehow over time Pingman's initially admitted conjecture and Budi's very obvious personal faith in positive outcomes and his related reporting reflecting that became accepted as real "information" (if not "fact"). And, reflecting human nature, others with a similar positive focus joined in all claiming to have their own sources, which on closer examination appear all to tie back to the same points and all with a positive-only bias.

Pingman has not uncovered any secret information that nobody else can find or become an expert on international finance and banking since he started up with his sunny side of the street stories of what might have happened back on the old runboard forum. Budi will never change from one who only sees a silver lining and tries to keep hopes up and his sources will never be any more accurate than they have been since he started reporting effectively the same line a week after SI closed. Abs and Bathurst and others who are in the Budi clan will continue to accept and support him and the information he brings based on nothing other than how they view Budi. SI VIP, 1ITK, and Simon will never admit that they really have no inside information regardless that's clearly apparent at this point. Burroak and TheOscar will never admit to themselves or anyone else that they were stupid enough to be scammed. Shoutit could be shown a had written confession and mug shot of "Sam Colins" holding a booking board and he'd still believe he was going to be paid based only on his faith and vision.

The only suprise here is that anyone would expect that now the information they are getting is any more real or accurate than it ever has been.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 02:23 PM     #1707
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Pingman has not uncovered any secret information that nobody else can find or become an expert on international finance and banking since he started up with his sunny side of the street stories of what might have happened back on the old runboard forum.
Why would Pingman claim to have a copy of the German Court Order when it does not exist?
No German Court Order = No case for claimants = No notices = No payouts.
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Budi will never change from one who only sees a silver lining and tries to keep hopes up and his sources will never be any more accurate than they have been since he started reporting effectively the same line a week after SI closed. Abs and Bathurst and others who are in the Budi clan will continue to accept and support him and the information he brings based on nothing other than how they view Budi.
I wonder if Budi is still involved with Remingtons working on commission for his 'sales'.
Past associations with questionable characters...hmmm...

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SI VIP, 1ITK, and Simon will never admit that they really have no inside information regardless that's clearly apparent at this point. Burroak and TheOscar will never admit to themselves or anyone else that they were stupid enough to be scammed.
Guilty by association, accessories to the fact.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 02:24 PM     #1708
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Coward! You throw out a name implicating an individual and you hide like a slobbering troll in your sewer pipe.

You and your your Bull**** providers are as guilty as those scammers who stole peoples money.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 02:29 PM     #1709
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I wonder if Budi is still involved with Remingtons working on commission for his 'sales'.
Past associations with questionable characters...hmmm...
This sounds delectably juicy.
Do tell...
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 03:51 PM     #1710
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You and your your Bull**** providers are as guilty as those scammers who stole peoples money.



You sort of sound like a whiny little biatch! LOLOLOLOL
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