"In-the-knows" have painted themselves into a corner (2nd Thread)

Seriously,is budi living in some alternate reality? This latest "update" is surely the most ridiculous, unbelievable nonsense, budi has ever posted. Even the die hards will find that bullsh*t hard to swallow.Don't waste your time looking in the Sunday Times new years richest men list.There won't be any mention of budi's 100,000 imaginary millionaires.LOL.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Seriously,is budi living in some alternate reality?

If having his head stuck up his butt is an alternate reality then your absolutely right.

Psycotic delusion. He actually believes his own BS. There
is no financial incentive to continue these 'updates', and
saving his pride is a rediculous notion at this point - so
why continue? So sad that others are caught up in the
endless story and burning away years of thier life waiting
on this hoax to pay out.

Just before the website shut down it was showing 102,000+ members. A month before, at their forum, we were informed that at least 25% of current accounts were duplicates, mistakes or double accounts. Later we were told that there were ONLY around 47,000 Valid accounts that were properly funded and correct!!! Near the same time we were told that there were less than 1,000 "offline" investors that had "big" Money; BUT the amount of Money "Small" investors put in(average of 2k investments)exceeded the offline investment amount!!! Which makes sense, if you do the math, the "Big" investors would not have invested 'huge' amounts as we were lead to believe!!! Logic should tell anyone that it would be impossible to have 2x the amount of investors as posted on the website that last day(July 7th,06). 200,000 investors as budi suggested,recently, is impossible!!! Unless Another 100,000+ people joined in the last 3.5 years; which might be the case, since there have been many reports of SI phantom websites!!! You guys do what you want, but it is my sincere Hope at some point you release all this SI Nonsense and trust in yourself to bring in the 'real' money!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Wait... Wait.... I'm OK now...... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SNORT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Whewwwwwwwww..... OK... OK.... Budigower Administrator Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 292 Location: Gold Coast Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:01 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 's speeding along. The biggest difficulty that we are all having is comprehending the size of this operation. The number of accounts that have already been processed is way over 100k, probably closer to 200k. The number of entities, within the ambit of this operation, with beneficiaries has been much larger than anyone considered. Even those who entered SI have been managed by different entities, those who deposited with an e-currency are being managed by an entity separate to those who entered SI with a wire deposit. Everyone is being processed. When you consider the amount that is dealt with in any one day, it is incredible. Then consider that this has been the daily ritual for over two years then one comprehends the staggering size of this operation. We are in the queue and our turn will come. Every day there are many happy beneficiaries. Cheers Budi

If John Doel has a shred of decency in him he will come clean about the circumstances which has compelled him to continue with this charade thereby misleading the remaining few members and not wrench them into yet another year of disappointments.
The same applies with Jerry Burling. He plays an equal role as an accomplice having made false statements about a court order which DOES NOT exist whilst confirming payments which HAVE NEVER been processed thereby exasperating this farce.

Originally Posted by Unregistered If John Doel has a shred of decency in him he will come clean about the circumstances which has compelled him to continue with this charade thereby misleading the remaining few members and not wrench them into yet another year of disappointments. The same applies with Jerry Burling. He plays an equal role as an accomplice having made false statements about a court order which DOES NOT exist whilst confirming payments which HAVE NEVER been processed thereby exasperating this farce.

Does anyone have an address for this John and Jerry? Oh I'll take buttcracks too although I'm pretty sure I have a line on him already. Even just a town will be enough for me to hunt them down and " have a heart to heart" talk. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Hahahahahaha,more nonsense from a wannabee financial expert! LOL Now Mr wanabee expert, please explain how SI have been paying out 50 and 100 million Dollar payments for two years.All this on an investmentment of under $300 million?

Traders and program managers for international class security firms do not operate in the realm of general knowledge for the obvious reason that the high profit platform cannot be availed by everyone. Documents of trading records are securely confidential involving contracts and NDA’s obligating both parties to the investment agreement not to reveal the terms and contact information. The origin and identity of the parent company is routinely cloaked program wide and reserved for disclosure only to high net worth individuals whose funds are invested individually.

The trading in “debt instruments” is a multi TRILLION dollar industry worldwide. The bank secured investment programs of top world banks (Money Center Banks) are authorized to issue blocks of debt instruments like Bank Purchase Orders (BPOs), Promissory Bank Notes or Mid-Term Notes (MTNs), Zero Coupon Bonds (Zeros), Documentary Letters of Credit (DLCs), Stand By Letters of Credit (SLCs), or Bank Debenture Instruments (BDls) under International Chamber of Commerce guidelines (ICC - 500 & 600). The prices of these instruments are quoted as a percentage of the face amount of the instrument, with the initial market price being established when first issued. Thereafter, as they are resold to other banks, they are sold at escalating higher prices, thus realizing a profit on each transaction, which can take as little as one day to complete.

As these debt instruments are bought and sold within the banking community, the trading cycles generally move from the higher level banks to lower level (smaller) banks. Often they move through as many as seven or eight trading cycles, until they eventually are sold to an already contracted retail customer or "exit buyer" such as a pension fund, trust fund, foundation, insurance company, security dealer, etc. that is seeking a conservative, reasonable yield investment that is suitable for 8 figure amounts. By the time the bank debentures ultimately reach the "retail" or secondary market level, they are of course selling at substantially higher prices than when originally issued. For example, while the original issuing bank might sell a "MTN" at 80% of its face value, by the time it finally reaches the "retail/exit" buyer it can sell for 91% to 93% of its face value. Since these transactions are intended for large financial institutions, they are denominated in face amounts commonly ranging from US $10 million. These are phenomenal arrangements but they are even eclipsed in situations where the most skilled and connected program manager is able to obtain Medium Term Notes at an 80% discount and sell directly to the retail/exit buyer yielding an 11% -13% profit on any particular business day.

This is the environment from which SI sprang and operated for several years. As has been accurately reported the payout funds are escrowed and not affected by the financial meltdown that began last year, although the way that the payout schedule is being structured with IMF oversight, deciding how much should be released at any particular time.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Traders and program managers for international class security firms do not operate in the realm of general knowledge for the obvious reason that the high profit platform cannot be availed by everyone. Documents of trading records are securely confidential involving contracts and NDA’s obligating both parties to the investment agreement not to reveal the terms and contact information. The origin and identity of the parent company is routinely cloaked program wide and reserved for disclosure only to high net worth individuals whose funds are invested individually. The trading in “debt instruments” is a multi TRILLION dollar industry worldwide. The bank secured investment programs of top world banks (Money Center Banks) are authorized to issue blocks of debt instruments like Bank Purchase Orders (BPOs), Promissory Bank Notes or Mid-Term Notes (MTNs), Zero Coupon Bonds (Zeros), Documentary Letters of Credit (DLCs), Stand By Letters of Credit (SLCs), or Bank Debenture Instruments (BDls) under International Chamber of Commerce guidelines (ICC - 500 & 600). The prices of these instruments are quoted as a percentage of the face amount of the instrument, with the initial market price being established when first issued. Thereafter, as they are resold to other banks, they are sold at escalating higher prices, thus realizing a profit on each transaction, which can take as little as one day to complete. As these debt instruments are bought and sold within the banking community, the trading cycles generally move from the higher level banks to lower level (smaller) banks. Often they move through as many as seven or eight trading cycles, until they eventually are sold to an already contracted retail customer or "exit buyer" such as a pension fund, trust fund, foundation, insurance company, security dealer, etc. that is seeking a conservative, reasonable yield investment that is suitable for 8 figure amounts. By the time the bank debentures ultimately reach the "retail" or secondary market level, they are of course selling at substantially higher prices than when originally issued. For example, while the original issuing bank might sell a "MTN" at 80% of its face value, by the time it finally reaches the "retail/exit" buyer it can sell for 91% to 93% of its face value. Since these transactions are intended for large financial institutions, they are denominated in face amounts commonly ranging from US $10 million. These are phenomenal arrangements but they are even eclipsed in situations where the most skilled and connected program manager is able to obtain Medium Term Notes at an 80% discount and sell directly to the retail/exit buyer yielding an 11% -13% profit on any particular business day. This is the environment from which SI sprang and operated for several years. As has been accurately reported the payout funds are escrowed and not affected by the financial meltdown that began last year, although the way that the payout schedule is being structured with IMF oversight, deciding how much should be released at any particular time.

A online HYIP based on inferior scripts orchestrated by absolute amateurs could not possibly be connected to any form of banking platform so stop peddling your BS by suggesting that SI was more than what it really was - An Internet Scam.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Traders and program managers for international class security firms do not operate in the realm of general knowledge for the obvious reason that the high profit platform cannot be availed by everyone. Documents of trading records are securely confidential involving contracts and NDA’s obligating both parties to the investment agreement not to reveal the terms and contact information. The origin and identity of the parent company is routinely cloaked program wide and reserved for disclosure only to high net worth individuals whose funds are invested individually. The trading in “debt instruments” is a multi TRILLION dollar industry worldwide. The bank secured investment programs of top world banks (Money Center Banks) are authorized to issue blocks of debt instruments like Bank Purchase Orders (BPOs), Promissory Bank Notes or Mid-Term Notes (MTNs), Zero Coupon Bonds (Zeros), Documentary Letters of Credit (DLCs), Stand By Letters of Credit (SLCs), or Bank Debenture Instruments (BDls) under International Chamber of Commerce guidelines (ICC - 500 & 600). The prices of these instruments are quoted as a percentage of the face amount of the instrument, with the initial market price being established when first issued. Thereafter, as they are resold to other banks, they are sold at escalating higher prices, thus realizing a profit on each transaction, which can take as little as one day to complete. As these debt instruments are bought and sold within the banking community, the trading cycles generally move from the higher level banks to lower level (smaller) banks. Often they move through as many as seven or eight trading cycles, until they eventually are sold to an already contracted retail customer or "exit buyer" such as a pension fund, trust fund, foundation, insurance company, security dealer, etc. that is seeking a conservative, reasonable yield investment that is suitable for 8 figure amounts. By the time the bank debentures ultimately reach the "retail" or secondary market level, they are of course selling at substantially higher prices than when originally issued. For example, while the original issuing bank might sell a "MTN" at 80% of its face value, by the time it finally reaches the "retail/exit" buyer it can sell for 91% to 93% of its face value. Since these transactions are intended for large financial institutions, they are denominated in face amounts commonly ranging from US $10 million. These are phenomenal arrangements but they are even eclipsed in situations where the most skilled and connected program manager is able to obtain Medium Term Notes at an 80% discount and sell directly to the retail/exit buyer yielding an 11% -13% profit on any particular business day. This is the environment from which SI sprang and operated for several years. As has been accurately reported the payout funds are escrowed and not affected by the financial meltdown that began last year, although the way that the payout schedule is being structured with IMF oversight, deciding how much should be released at any particular time.

LOL. Sorry, you'll have to do better than that. ALL of what is written above is pure, unadulterated BULLSHlT. It's copied from psuedo-authorities promoting and attempting to sell a variety of sketchy investment schemes on the basis of such "secret" scenarios, all of which are just plain false as has been demonstrated many times.

Example Craig's List investment scam ad using the same BS (and we all know what a trusted source for financial information it is. LOL!):

Trade Program for affluent investor (Financial District) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2009-11-07, 7:47AM EST Reply to: serv-yxx2u-1455253250 * craigslist org [Errors when replying to ads?] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The trading in "debt instruments" is a multi trillion dollar industry worldwide. Top world banks (Money Center Banks) are authorized to issue blocks of debt instruments like Bank Purchase Orders (BPOs), Promissory Bank Notes or Mid-Term Notes (MTNs), Zero Coupon Bonds (Zeros), Documentary Letters of Credit (DLCs), Stand By Letters of Credit (SLCs), or Bank Debenture Instruments (BDls) under International Chamber of Commerce guidelines (ICC - 500 & 600). The prices of these instruments are quoted as a percentage of the face amount of the instrument, with the initial market price being established when first issued. Thereafter, as they are resold to other banks, they are sold at escalating higher prices, thus realizing a profit on each transaction, which can take as little as one day to complete. As these debt instruments are bought and sold within the banking community, the trading cycles generally move from the higher level banks to lower level (smaller) banks. Often they move through as many as seven or eight trading cycles, until they eventually are sold to an already contracted retail customer or "exit buyer" such as a pension fund, trust fund, foundation, insurance company, security dealer, etc. that is seeking a conservative, reasonable yield investment that is suitable for 8 figure amounts. By the time the bank debentures ultimately reach the "retail" or secondary market level, they are of course selling at substantially higher prices than when originally issued. For example, while the original issuing bank might sell a "MTN" at 80% of it's face value, by the time it finally reaches the "retail/exit" buyer it can sell for 91% to 93% of it's face value. Since these transactions are intended for large financial institutions, they are denominated in face amounts commonly ranging from US $10 million. Several types of arrangements are available for investors to place their funds in trading programs. Returns vary from program to program, but most offer a contractual minimum return to the investor or a fixed yield per trade and minimum number of trades per year. I am direct to platform for ppp..programs start at 1m and up reply for compliance docs to begin the process

The fact is that such deals as they are claimed in the post above are not real. To the extent that they do exist the terms and returns are not even close to that described and they are not at all secret other than maybe to novice investors who don't know any better. As anyone who actually has any real investment experience knows, the parties, terms (none of which even approach that described), and other details are widely reported on a daily basis in a variety of media dedicated to reporting such deals. There is an entire industry devoted to supporting, analyzing, rating, underwriting, insuring, and promoting these types of deals. "Parent companies" ALWAYS are disclosed for what should be the obvious reasons that they are the actual parties to such deals and bear responsibility and liability and are the party upon which credit and other elements of rating and pricing such deals relies. ALL are subject to basic disclosures, regiatrations, and required reporting as are any other investments. NONE even remotely approach the returns commonly suggested by scams using them as the basis for their "secret" investment programs." ALL banks and even private hedge funds report their results, and NONE reflect anything even remotely resembling that described. The only people who claim otherwise are conspiracy nuts and scammers. Which should help to qualify the post above and similar claims made by Budi and others with respect to SI.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Traders and program managers for international class security firms do not operate in the realm of general knowledge for the obvious reason that the high profit platform cannot be availed by everyone. Documents of trading records are securely confidential involving contracts and NDA’s obligating both parties to the investment agreement not to reveal the terms and contact information. The origin and identity of the parent company is routinely cloaked program wide and reserved for disclosure only to high net worth individuals whose funds are invested individually. The trading in “debt instruments” is a multi TRILLION dollar industry worldwide. The bank secured investment programs of top world banks (Money Center Banks) are authorized to issue blocks of debt instruments like Bank Purchase Orders (BPOs), Promissory Bank Notes or Mid-Term Notes (MTNs), Zero Coupon Bonds (Zeros), Documentary Letters of Credit (DLCs), Stand By Letters of Credit (SLCs), or Bank Debenture Instruments (BDls) under International Chamber of Commerce guidelines (ICC - 500 & 600). The prices of these instruments are quoted as a percentage of the face amount of the instrument, with the initial market price being established when first issued. Thereafter, as they are resold to other banks, they are sold at escalating higher prices, thus realizing a profit on each transaction, which can take as little as one day to complete. As these debt instruments are bought and sold within the banking community, the trading cycles generally move from the higher level banks to lower level (smaller) banks. Often they move through as many as seven or eight trading cycles, until they eventually are sold to an already contracted retail customer or "exit buyer" such as a pension fund, trust fund, foundation, insurance company, security dealer, etc. that is seeking a conservative, reasonable yield investment that is suitable for 8 figure amounts. By the time the bank debentures ultimately reach the "retail" or secondary market level, they are of course selling at substantially higher prices than when originally issued. For example, while the original issuing bank might sell a "MTN" at 80% of its face value, by the time it finally reaches the "retail/exit" buyer it can sell for 91% to 93% of its face value. Since these transactions are intended for large financial institutions, they are denominated in face amounts commonly ranging from US $10 million. These are phenomenal arrangements but they are even eclipsed in situations where the most skilled and connected program manager is able to obtain Medium Term Notes at an 80% discount and sell directly to the retail/exit buyer yielding an 11% -13% profit on any particular business day. This is the environment from which SI sprang and operated for several years. As has been accurately reported the payout funds are escrowed and not affected by the financial meltdown that began last year, although the way that the payout schedule is being structured with IMF oversight, deciding how much should be released at any particular time.

Sounds good, doesn't it. But that's how you and other people get swindled--listening to what sounds good instead of investigating the facts. So, as result, in your framing a false assumption about SI, you've moved from being gullible to being a liar. Nothing good ever comes out of being irresponsible. Nothing.