On line fraud Indonesia

[fisher]

Welcome to the club matey!
You're in good company, we've all been ripped off and are learning to live with it.

hi!! it happen with me , too i find some stuff i was going to sell in alibaba.com,,and a seller from idonesia take my money thanks god wasn't alot..only $250..but i was very sad because i was exited with my new bussiness..lus i'm a new mon so money now it's really short!!!..alibaba.com told em the same they can get involved..and told me to conctcat police witch i knew it was just the same than nothing...the only thing they did it's removed the seller form their web site..but i wonder if the sma eperson can just can with another name and scam another person...
just in case..the shop was ChpBaby Shop..and i was trying to but bumbo chairs or child rite seat..if some one wnat to buy a wholesale of that just watch out!!!!!

[indoverifier]

I think the best thing is to post as many posts in forums (like this one) with all the details (specially their bank details) so we all make it easier to detect before payment.

All of us should help to create an easy Background check and verification of suppliers, so the more data in the web, the easier to help someone else.

We guess some Indonesian police is involved in this kind of activity, so even if you have the right to call them, your request will by buried in a pile of documents to be forgotten.

Documents needed to open a bank account in Indonesia should be validated by the bank, but sometimes a good photocopy is enough. So, it is really helpful to google the bank account or name in the internet and study the results...

SO, from our experience: post, post, post theri details and check BEFORE payments!!!

I saw brentonmcgrath post and now at the right time , i saw this post.

Well i wanna ask you people , recently i contacted a guy to import digital audio equipments to India , we have already done with the pricing and mode of payment.

But seeing this post , i am scare to move forward to this deal , because even i have found that guy from Alibaba , he's located in Indonesia,
So please guide me for the safest deal or how do i deal with him , because i asked him to send me his identity proof and company profile.

Will that help ???

Let me know

thanks,

Suchit

[fisher]

Ask for references, other peoples contact details who they have sold to previously.
Can you pay via Paypal? (not fool proof but my scammer wouldn't allow me that option).

[brentonmcgrath]

my advice would be to buy nothing unless you can pay with Paypal,
this way if the items do not arrive you can cancell the payment.

I have found that as soon as you want to pay with paypal they find many excuses why they cannot accept it

dont be fooled by their words or letters that you can trust them

pay nothing unless by paypal

also check them out
ask for web address
ask for phone numbers
do web searches

but i honestly think i would not buy anything from Indonesia

Hello
May name is David Ben baron I won't to report abbot an Internet fraud from accompany cold Marine Heaven Boat an online web page.
Alibaba.com I pay total of 8120us dollar for a Honda Outboard BF225 and the don’t answer to my email
Those are the name and the company detail

Joni Hasilohan the men thte I white contact
Jl. Bahagia II No. 28 Medan 20135
North Sumatera - Indonesia
E-mail : sales@marineheaven.com
Phone : +62-819-2166-225
+62-812-6499-7353

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Originally Posted by brentonmcgrath

Two weeks ago I purchased 5 radio controlled kits through an online web page.
Alibaba.com The web page has hundreds of companies selling items. You register your details and what items you are thinking about buying in bulk, and you can either use their search engine to find sellers or they send you email alerts as to companies on their listing that are selling the item or similar items you want.

I wanted to import Baja 5bSS radio control cars to Australia.
I received a Trade alert to a company in Indonesia. I contacted the company and negotiated a deal. I received a receipt of the banking details and all of the companies contact details. I rang the company and was able to talk to a man who stated they had my order and that when they received my money by telegraphic transfer they would send my items with Fedex.

I sent the money and then the emails stopped.
I tried to ring and the phone was disconnected
I contacted the bank who verified that my money was received and the owner removed the money from the account.
They will not release any names or refund the money

I rang the police in Jakarta and explained to them what happened. They laughed and said that it happens all the time and to forget about it

I sent an email to alibaba.com
They said that they have no responsibility to verify if a seller is legitimate or not and that they are just a means for two people to get connected like a trade show.

I feel that a web company that receives money from a seller to advertise on their web page has an obligation to ensure that the seller is a legal business and that I can purchase or complete a business dealing without concern of this type of fraud

Also they contacted me using their trade alert to connect me with the seller.
Does a web company have any legal obligations to ensure that at least the companies that are advertised are genuine?

The money lost is really a small amount just $650 US but I want to know what I can do?
Should I chase the fraudster?
Should I sue the web company?
Should I forget about it?

It’s just that I feel if we don’t try and stop this kind of fraud related dealings on the internet they will continue and people will continue loosing money
I look forward to hearing from you

[indoverifier]

The phone number are prepaid mobile phones.
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Medan is scammer's haven.
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Branded Items
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SCAM

I have been emailing back and forth with this company to buy s******s and motorcyles but they want me to send by T/T payment 30% and rest when it comes...anybody know how to check this company out or heard of them...please email me at importsdp@hotmail.com.....

Owner name is Ricky Hutama


PT. Portibi Sports
Street Address: Jl. Sam Ratulangi No. 362 C
City: Jakarta Pusat
Province/State: Jakarta Raya
Country/Region: Indonesia
Zip: 10350
Telephone: 62-21-23550737
Fax: 62



Company Name: PT. Portibi Sports
Business Type: Trading Company, Agent, Distributor/Wholesaler
Product/Services: ATV, Motorcycle, Motorbike,
Company Website URL: http://
Ownership & Capital
Year Established: 2005
Registered Capital: US$101 Thousand - US$500 Thousand
Ownership Type: Corporation/Limited Liability Company
Legal Representative/Business Owner: 1
Trade & Market
Main Markets: North America
South America
Eastern Europe
Southeast Asia
Africa
Oceania
Mid East
Eastern Asia
Western Europe
Total Annual Sales Volume: Below US$1 Million
Export Percentage: 31% - 40%
Total Annual Purchase Volume: Below US$1 Million
Factory Information
Factory Size: Below 1,000 square meters
Factory Location: Jakarta
QA/QC: Third Parties
No. of Production Lines: Above 10
No. of R&D Staff: 31 - 40 People
No. of QC Staff: 21 - 30 People
Management Certification: ISO 9000/9001/9004/19011: 2000 Others

I scammed the indonesian scammer.
I forward packages and this was an indonesian client.
I found out that he was buying with stolen credit cards.
By the time it was time to ship he send the money western union.
I collected and then told him he was a thief and that I was sending the goods back to their rightful owners
He wanted his shipping money back but I gues he is out of luck haha