Yong Li v. Raytheon Company (2nd thread)

Originally Posted by Unregistered Another example of Racism in the UK. Arrest spotlights racism concerns in English soccer - CNN.com Racism already exits in the work place(As Yong Li can tell you from firts hand experience) now the Brits have introduced this it into the sports. You can see why no white UK employee has ever been laid if from the Raytheon ATC division. Check with HR Marlborough MA for statisctics.

Its appalling and disgustting that a company like Raytheon can uproot families and then lay them off /harass(Yong Li) them, yet some these parasites and phoneis are allowed to continue to be employed at Marlborough.

As you can ALL see layoffs at Raytheon are not based on peformance its based on management discretion because the failure of the E-Borders (ans some other programs, ADAMS, VATCAS) clearly shows that management/architects who were responsible for the failure of this program were never laid off.

The only crime that Yong Li did was to write efficient code which resulted in a lower SLOC. Is that a crime? Is that against company policy? Is that a bad thing? Is that how Raytheon rewards their employees?

Originally Posted by Unregistered Its appalling and disgustting that a company like Raytheon can uproot families and then lay them off /harass(Yong Li) them, yet some these parasites and phoneis are allowed to continue to be employed at Marlborough. As you can ALL see layoffs at Raytheon are not based on peformance its based on management discretion because the failure of the E-Borders (ans some other programs, ADAMS, VATCAS) clearly shows that management/architects who were responsible for the failure of this program were never laid off. The only crime that Yong Li did was to write efficient code which resulted in a lower SLOC. Is that a crime? Is that against company policy? Is that a bad thing? Is that how Raytheon rewards their employees?

Its interesting to know how some of managers who worked at Marlborough glorify themselves on Linkedin, but there is no mention of the failed projects.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Its appalling and disgustting that a company like Raytheon can uproot families and then lay them off /harass(Yong Li) them, yet some these parasites and phoneis are allowed to continue to be employed at Marlborough. As you can ALL see layoffs at Raytheon are not based on peformance its based on management discretion because the failure of the E-Borders (ans some other programs, ADAMS, VATCAS) clearly shows that management/architects who were responsible for the failure of this program were never laid off. The only crime that Yong Li did was to write efficient code which resulted in a lower SLOC. Is that a crime? Is that against company policy? Is that a bad thing? Is that how Raytheon rewards their employees?

This is old news but it involved some of Managers in this thread. The point is that Raytheon treated its employees badly and the failure of UK-Border (see below) justifies the poor management, bad ethics and inequalities at Marlborough ATC. I am sure shareholders would like to what Bill Swanson view on this is? lossing a $1.2 billion project can be swept under the rug?

What more evidence do you want to prove that it was not Yong Li and others were at fault? You don't need a Phd to figure this out.

"The U.K. Home Office has removed lead contractor Raytheon from the £1.2 billion e-Borders program, saying it has “no confidence” in the firm, Reuters reports.

The U.K. hits out at Raytheon, removing the company from the £1.2 billion e-Borders program; the immigration minister Damian Green said earlier today that the program was running at least twelve months late and that Raytheon had been in breach of contract since July last year; Home Office says it has “no confidence” in the company; Raytheon was the lead contractor of the Trusted Borders consortium, which won a £650 million deal in 2007 to build the e-Borders system; other members of the consortium, including Serco, Detica, Accenture, and Qinetiq will keep their contracts; Raytheon was responsible for systems integration, travel services, and overall project management"

So how come other members of the consortium kept their contracts?

Originally Posted by Unregistered This is old news but it involved some of Managers in this thread. The point is that Raytheon treated its employees badly and the failure of UK-Border (see below) justifies the poor management, bad ethics and inequalities at Marlborough ATC. I am sure shareholders would like to what Bill Swanson view on this is? lossing a $1.2 billion project can be swept under the rug? What more evidence do you want to prove that it was not Yong Li and others were at fault? You don't need a Phd to figure this out. "The U.K. Home Office has removed lead contractor Raytheon from the £1.2 billion e-Borders program, saying it has “no confidence” in the firm, Reuters reports. The U.K. hits out at Raytheon, removing the company from the £1.2 billion e-Borders program; the immigration minister Damian Green said earlier today that the program was running at least twelve months late and that Raytheon had been in breach of contract since July last year; Home Office says it has “no confidence” in the company; Raytheon was the lead contractor of the Trusted Borders consortium, which won a £650 million deal in 2007 to build the e-Borders system; other members of the consortium, including Serco, Detica, Accenture, and Qinetiq will keep their contracts; Raytheon was responsible for systems integration, travel services, and overall project management" So how come other members of the consortium kept their contracts?

I hope Bill Swanson fully understood Damian Green comments:-

"....the immigration minister Damian Green said earlier today that the program was running at least twelve months late and that Raytheon had been in breach of contract since July last year; Home Office says it has “no confidence” in the company;....."


In essence the real issues was with the management and the culture at ATC Marlborogh MA. The elimination of Raytheon from e-borders by the UK Governement provides some truth to what Yong Li has been saying about these managers and culture at Marlborough.

These managers/supervisors were responsible for ruining folks careers, friends and relationship with colleagues and families.

Interesting to know if Bill Swanson/Raytheon every investigated/reviewed the ATC division in Marlborough MA and checked the resume some of some of the folks, I am sure he would find some lies in the resume's....

Originally Posted by Unregistered I hope Bill Swanson fully understood Damian Green comments:- "....the immigration minister Damian Green said earlier today that the program was running at least twelve months late and that Raytheon had been in breach of contract since July last year; Home Office says it has “no confidence” in the company;....." In essence the real issues was with the management and the culture at ATC Marlborogh MA. The elimination of Raytheon from e-borders by the UK Governement provides some truth to what Yong Li has been saying about these managers and culture at Marlborough. These managers/supervisors were responsible for ruining folks careers, friends and relationship with colleagues and families. Interesting to know if Bill Swanson/Raytheon every investigated/reviewed the ATC division in Marlborough MA and checked the resume some of some of the folks, I am sure he would find some lies in the resume's....

I suppose we could blame Obama for the high unemployment? its an election year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered I suppose we could blame Obama for the high unemployment? its an election year.

DOT - Audit Initiated to Follow-up on FAA's ATCOTS Contract Challenges | Office of Inspector General

Raytheon Company: Air Traffic Control Optimum Training Solution (ATCOTS)

In 2008 FAA awarded the $859-million ATCOTS contract to Raytheon intended to provide up to 10 years of controller training support and to assist in modernizing the training program.

Well it appears that the Raytheon may have used all the money and was expecting FAA to inject more money (taxpayers money most likely) into the project. Well I guess FAA refused to inject more funding which just recently resulted in Dynamic Science, Inc. folks having been let go.

Can we blame the current administration (Obama in this case) on the job/funding issues when you have projects that have been mismanaged?

So, I guess you would agree that this is another example of Raytheon's poor management, resulting in employees being laid off and managers most likely being promoted (as this tread clearly shows) I think we have seen this before: "UK-e-Borders" that our prestigious management team from Marlborough managed!!!

Maybe Bill Swanson could let us know where all the FAA award money went? This is clearly happened under is watch.

Originally Posted by Unregistered DOT - Audit Initiated to Follow-up on FAA's ATCOTS Contract Challenges | Office of Inspector General Raytheon Company: Air Traffic Control Optimum Training Solution (ATCOTS) In 2008 FAA awarded the $859-million ATCOTS contract to Raytheon intended to provide up to 10 years of controller training support and to assist in modernizing the training program. Well it appears that the Raytheon may have used all the money and was expecting FAA to inject more money (taxpayers money most likely) into the project. Well I guess FAA refused to inject more funding which just recently resulted in Dynamic Science, Inc. folks having been let go. Can we blame the current administration (Obama in this case) on the job/funding issues when you have projects that have been mismanaged? So, I guess you would agree that this is another example of Raytheon's poor management, resulting in employees being laid off and managers most likely being promoted (as this tread clearly shows) I think we have seen this before: "UK-e-Borders" that our prestigious management team from Marlborough managed!!! Maybe Bill Swanson could let us know where all the FAA award money went? This is clearly happened under is watch.

Just shows you that Raytheon wasted time and effort on Yong Li few lines of code, yet they seem to loose large $$$ programs because of their management.

Just want the world out there to understand this how Raytheon works and how it treats its employees.

Originally Posted by Unregistered I wrote this in April 2010, And I found out at a job fair recently Raytheon IIS Garland is back to its old tricks. Seasoned employees with 20+ years experience are still getting laid today only to be replaced by cheaper and younger people. Its a shame really, to be treated like a number on a budget to be subtracted so people like Dennis J Lis can keep their job. Its like being on theTV show Survivor, never know when you are going to be voted off.

Well I don't know anything about "seasoned employees with 20+ yrs experience getting laid" ?? , but I worked at Raytheon IDS Andover MA, in the last quarter of 2011, everything was going great. I was fastracked through abt 9 cirtifications (I do have decades of experience and passed the cirts justly) I was being told that I would be the "go to" guy on the third shift. i was well liked and recognized for my skill and experience. It seemed like I was being groomed for a supervisory role, and then abruptly, I was escorted out of the building with no explanation an told not to come back to work. It was a devastating blow to me. After being out of work for so long and finally landing a job and being told that I could retire with this company. After persistently asking everyone for any explanation I was told that I could come back the next day and talk with some one. I did so and was treated with blatant rudeness and hostility. I researched my records with equip, NSA, all surrounding police depts,courts and court archives and found no record of me derogatory to my background investigation for security clearence. I learned that a ms. Carol Pye had made the decision to have me fired. I naturally called her but , she was of course unavailable that day and after several more attempts to reach her (assuming the phone # 1 978 470 5381) is even legit I learned that she had just left for her paid vacation, as I was being evicted, fighting off the reposession of my car and loosing all of my personal posessions being auctioned off from storage. I called personnel at raytheon ids a couple of months later to ask for hard copies of all the cirtifications that I got there ,explaining that they would help me in my job search as an addition to my resume, in an extreemly difficult job market. The HR dept was also on vacation. I called several more times leaving detailed messages, being very professional and trying not to sound as if I was actually begging, even though things have become desperate. No response. No explanation, No professional courtesy. I now know that Raytheon with all of their touting and bragging of "integrity" & "ethics" are a ruthless lying & disloyal company, and shamefully so. It's like the amount of fake propaganda they put out trying to portray themselves as having integrity is their feeble attempt to cover their genuine immorality.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Well I don't know anything about "seasoned employees with 20+ yrs experience getting laid" ?? , but I worked at Raytheon IDS Andover MA, in the last quarter of 2011, everything was going great. I was fastracked through abt 9 cirtifications (I do have decades of experience and passed the cirts justly) I was being told that I would be the "go to" guy on the third shift. i was well liked and recognized for my skill and experience. It seemed like I was being groomed for a supervisory role, and then abruptly, I was escorted out of the building with no explanation an told not to come back to work. It was a devastating blow to me. After being out of work for so long and finally landing a job and being told that I could retire with this company. After persistently asking everyone for any explanation I was told that I could come back the next day and talk with some one. I did so and was treated with blatant rudeness and hostility. I researched my records with equip, NSA, all surrounding police depts,courts and court archives and found no record of me derogatory to my background investigation for security clearence. I learned that a ms. Carol Pye had made the decision to have me fired. I naturally called her but , she was of course unavailable that day and after several more attempts to reach her (assuming the phone # 1 978 470 5381) is even legit I learned that she had just left for her paid vacation, as I was being evicted, fighting off the reposession of my car and loosing all of my personal posessions being auctioned off from storage. I called personnel at raytheon ids a couple of months later to ask for hard copies of all the cirtifications that I got there ,explaining that they would help me in my job search as an addition to my resume, in an extreemly difficult job market. The HR dept was also on vacation. I called several more times leaving detailed messages, being very professional and trying not to sound as if I was actually begging, even though things have become desperate. No response. No explanation, No professional courtesy. I now know that Raytheon with all of their touting and bragging of "integrity" & "ethics" are a ruthless lying & disloyal company, and shamefully so. It's like the amount of fake propaganda they put out trying to portray themselves as having integrity is their feeble attempt to cover their genuine immorality.

It seems that Ms Carol Pye does not have the balls to face you and is a coward, this is no one to cover her? How can the HR department be on vacation, thats toatl rubbish.

We had the same type of idiots at Marlborough MA. Eric Rolfe, Jen Lewis, Scott Oglesbly, Ian Mitchell and many more. You can see why Raytheon has recently lost some contracts , (UK e-Borders, FAA ATCOTS).

There was a UK manager called George(Bill Pye's buddy) who never turned up to work yet he was never let go. At least you turned up to work.


I am sorry buddy, Raytheon is famous for Hire an Fire and its Bill Swanson that encourages this. Its going to get worse when Government spending on defense cuts happens.

Originally Posted by Unregistered It seems that Ms Carol Pye does not have the balls to face you and is a coward, this is no one to cover her? How can the HR department be on vacation, thats toatl rubbish. We had the same type of idiots at Marlborough MA. Eric Rolfe, Jen Lewis, Scott Oglesbly, Ian Mitchell and many more. You can see why Raytheon has recently lost some contracts , (UK e-Borders, FAA ATCOTS). There was a UK manager called George(Bill Pye's buddy) who never turned up to work yet he was never let go. At least you turned up to work. I am sorry buddy, Raytheon is famous for Hire an Fire and its Bill Swanson that encourages this. Its going to get worse when Government spending on defense cuts happens.

Even though the law of this land could not protect the folks like Yong Li and others from the discrimination, unfairness and lies at Raytheon., I truly believe in the law of the Lord and know he is watching down these nasty folks.....