swisscash scam

http://www.invested.hk/InvestEdAlert...257185001424BE


warning from hong kong authorities

Amazing how some people have bad luck...

Or is it that they feel "intelligent" at criticizing ?

I invest now with SC for 18 months... and I have cashed in (transfered and PAID to my bank account everything that I requested in a timely maner. Last was March 17th 2007.

I would gladly copy the statement here but it seems to be impossible.
What I can say is that I cashed in more than double my initial deposit.

Only once, it took some 2 months to be paid, and that is when they changed their payout method... but finally paid.

Scam ?
Certainly not in my view.
After all, banks are having this kind of return. How would anyone explain how bank employees have such good pay, 16/18 months salary in most countries of the world, huge benefits, How to explain the fortunes invested by the banks in spnsoring art and cultural operations, have huge art collections, give away millions and billions to charity and other gifting... how to explain their building and rebuilding their magnificent locals... and still have fortunes, huge profits... while still having to cope with bad debts and international loans...

Someone recently replied that there are banking insurrances (funds) to cover those losses... but where does their money come from ?

In forex alone many people double easily their networth every month or second month...
So where is the problem with a 20 or 25% monthly return ?

As in any investment, there are rules... and the rule is to cash in everything untill you get your investment back... then it's free return... I say the risk is VERY limited as such, and more when compared to the level of return.

As someone said above, people take for the only truth what they heard as being a common truth...
I would add FEAR is what keeps people away from many opportunities. Fear that make them hide behind sayings like 'too good to be true" and the like. What about all those people who laughed at Bill Gates when he looked for capital to present his DOS system to IBM ? I'm sure they keep biting their fingers if they still have some.
What about all those people who invested in start-ups like Google, YAhoo, Skype and U-Tube ? and many others.. 100 folds in no time...
Why would it be impossible for a wise group of investors like SC to invest in emerging funds with such high returns ? and give us back "ONLY" 25% ?
And what if this was the scam ? giveng back ONLY ....
Then don't trust banks either...who give us back between 1 and 4%... I call that robbery, Abuse of ignorance of the man of the street.

And it's good, because the world needs various type of people... at work, or their would be only bosses and no more employees, on life (and investment paterns) or there would be only home owners and no more renters...

My only concern is the little guy that acts like the little dog... the smaller the dog, the lounder he barks... ouaf ouaf... and make it a pride to spit in the plate.

Whatever people chose to do, good luck.
But those who don't, PLEASE stop trying to be more intelligent. Fear, nor exagerated caution is not a sign of intelligence.
NO risk = NO success..
Don't do, and you are sure not to have result... sure not to lose, but also certain no to win.

"Advice = the other name for hiding ignorance"

nice words above from a scammer hoping you will give more money to thieves. anybody with any brain knows that swisscash is a fraud and a scam, if you doubt it meet with any reputable licensed accounting firm and ask them about it

yeah...

First you keep polite, and don't juge who you don't know.
Staying anonimous does not allow you to judge and be insolent.
You have the right to apologize.

I never give you my investors number and will not.
I'm trying to scam noone and have never done while I 'm of "mature" age

Ask who you say ?
What about 3 of my bankers in Switzerland ?
Or what about several corporate and managers of respected law and business offices ?
Or some investment and insurance companies that I know ? (1 in France, 1 in Switzerland, 1 in India...)

See, I don't even wanna debate wether SC is 100% legal in a given country or another...

Here is what I know :
1 - some people who are professional traditional investors were not surprised of the level of return (rather angry to know this was public)
2 - CF pays ! period... and by wire transfer onto your bank account.
3 - They have also opened to funds (Emerging Market Funds & Agricultural Commodities Funds) for those looking at more secure investments. Those fudns are variable according to the market, which simple proves that there are traders. Too new though to judge of the return compared to the market, but should do better. Let's see

Now to all the judges, and professional "asserters":
Do us all (pros and cons CF) a favour... bring arguments and facts, that will improve the debate. Barking "It's a scam, Period !" does not bring anything to it.
Thank you for that.

Kind regards

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yeah...

First you keep polite, and don't juge who you don't know.
Staying anonimous does not allow you to judge and be insolent.
You have the right to apologize.

I never give you my investors number and will not.
I'm trying to scam noone and have never done while I 'm of "mature" age

Ask who you say ?
What about 3 of my bankers in Switzerland ?
Or what about several corporate and managers of respected law and business offices ?
Or some investment and insurance companies that I know ? (1 in France, 1 in Switzerland, 1 in India...)

See, I don't even wanna debate wether SC is 100% legal in a given country or another...

Here is what I know :
1 - some people who are professional traditional investors were not surprised of the level of return (rather angry to know this was public)
2 - CF pays ! period... and by wire transfer onto your bank account.
3 - They have also opened to funds (Emerging Market Funds & Agricultural Commodities Funds) for those looking at more secure investments. Those fudns are variable according to the market, which simple proves that there are traders. Too new though to judge of the return compared to the market, but should do better. Let's see

Now to all the judges, and professional "asserters":
Do us all (pros and cons CF) a favour... bring arguments and facts, that will improve the debate. Barking "It's a scam, Period !" does not bring anything to it.
Thank you for that.

Kind regards

Hey Mr Hassan

Things don't look so good now , do they. We will look hard for those bank accounts and report them to the right autorities. Money laundering is against the law.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I was supposed to be paid this month and have not received anything, just one excuse after another!! Its all a big fruad!

show us your proof - your words mean nothing but, slander will get you in big trouble if proven wrong and malicious to a person's reputation

Originally Posted by Unregistered

show us your proof - your words mean nothing but, slander will get you in big trouble if proven wrong and malicious to a person's reputation

There are thousands of members in Malaysia , Indonesia , Singapore who had big payouts coming due and this fraudulant Company copied the Solidinvestment tactic and stole everyones money to be put into another fraudulant program to be paid out in October. They will not even be around then to pay out and if they are then they will have more excuses.

This company never had a good honest reputation to ruin. They hide who they are. Now they lie to people with this new SIP25 and no one will see any profit for 5 months. This is as pips in Malaysia. Government people and some corrupt Bankers are involved and should go to jail. Hopefully this company is shut down before they hurt more people and their millionaires arrested for life.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Here is a photograph of the individual in charge of the company and probably Administrator as well. Make sure you make a copy of this and give to the Authorities. He is having his pictures erased everywhere.

http://www.investors-exchange.com/im..._GuangDong.jpg

Also this person seems to be to be working closely as a big time heavy hitter with him in Singapore where they are both located.

http://www.serenechea.com/page2.htm


They are doing same as Solid Investment, they move e-points and funds to ACF ( VIP INVEST OF SOLIDINVESTMENT ) before they go , without members permission. Now have new high interest SIP25 program , but want new monies. Pays out 25% per month thet say forever.

SCAMMERS

I agreed completely with the last sentenses. When I checked my investment 10 months later, I was shocked that there were no e-points and funds left as indicated in the genealogy and fund report.

Neither did I know or inform about my e-points and funds being moved to ACF. I only got to know through this forum. Now my introducer is asking me to throw in more money for the swisscash EMF (Emerging Market Fund).

They really wanted to suck more blood our of us!

http://www.worldlawdirect.com/article/1926

SwissCash is the same as solidinvestment basically--same kind of scam. And they are doing the same thing as the poster above correctly notes. Nobody will ever be paid from SwissCash unless the culprits are arrested so push the police to do so!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

http://www.worldlawdirect.com/article/1926

SwissCash is the same as solidinvestment basically--same kind of scam. And they are doing the same thing as the poster above correctly notes. Nobody will ever be paid from SwissCash unless the culprits are arrested so push the police to do so!!

Here's the plan as i see them going out with a Bang. Yes I agree with you. Like SolidInvestment , they thru everyones money from the 3 Major Investor/Member countries into ACF for the purpose and without permission of Member/investors into a program that won't pay them anything until October. This allows the Ponzi some breathing room before they actually have to get out of town.

Solidinvestment did the very same thing with their VIP Program and the regular payouts stopped while members waited. SwissCash will do the same. They won't prove to anyone that they invest anywhere. At best with the SIP25 plan , they can make 4 monthy payouts with the investors own Funds and hope like heck to sucker as many into this as they can with a Phony SCAM Payout record of 5 Months. People are simply idiots if they think this Scam is going to payout Multi-Millions in October which at that point would be pure profit from their rediculous promises.

The latest Scam proof of legitimacy from several of their promoters is that an audit was done and they are now worth $56 Billion . This really gives southeast asians a bad name. I always thought from his posts on forums that Rapheal Sosa sounded Chinglish as do these people. I now wonder if these are the same scam artists.