swisscash scam

[quote=Unregistered;17596]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Dear Sc Investors
My up-line has just sent me this website: www.palinureinteres t.com
He also has given me a new password with my old sc ID. With all my money and interest for the last month that sc was in it!!
First I thought it

Don't fall for the trap later it will ask you for more personal and confidential id's and password to hack into your credit card and bank account!

Originally Posted by xcesssbiz

That is only the money from the Singapore and Hong Kong Bank accounts. I believe there is still the Isle of Man accounts and some others which they use around which can amount to quite a huge some. What about the money currently in the hands of the e-point dealers across Asia and the middle east.

One top lady e-point dealer have taken and earned at least a million dollars from Singaporeans, Malaysians and Jaimaicans for the last few months since the SIP25 have emerged. Now probably she have gone into hiding and deposited the huge amount of money into overseas banks.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is there any hope for the investor to get their origonal money back? I have been analyzing this for several weeks now. It looks very bleak for us.

Since there are a court hearings(at least what they say), there should an order to give back to the investors? right?

Does anybody is close enough to see the court hearings and where they are located? If nobody has complained that they did not get their money well is there anything the SEC but stop them from giving our money back?

These are hopeless questions that nobody knows. I am amberassed for the situation I caused other people as they invested a little. I will try to give them at least half of there investment. This is because I got them into this mess, I will try to help them.

Some time ago in this forum there is a proposal that we return to our downlines what we earned as faststart of 10% to them. If you have purchased e-points from the e-points dealers instead after Dec 2006, then you should go after them for the full principal amount.

Somehow they might have news of Swisscash demises soon and yet continued to sell their e-points. All this were done with the intention and greed of converting their worhtless e-points to cash without regards to new investors foes.

Other investors who introduced SC to their friends are simply ponds used by the e-points leaders to get rid of their e-points.

SIARAN AKHBAR
Kuala Lumpur, 27 September 2007
Akta Pasaran Modal dan Perkhidmatan 2007 akan dikuatkuasakan mulai 28 Sept – Memperkukuh pasaran modal dan perlindungan pelabur

Akta Pasaran Modal dan Perkhidmatan 2007 (CMSA) yang akan dikuatkuasakan mulai 28 September 2007, menjadi satu peristiwa penting utama dalam langkah berterusan Suruhanjaya Sekuriti (SC) bagi mengukuhkan rangka kerja pengawalseliaan pasaran modal, menambah baik kecekapan pengurusan dan meningkatkan lagi perlindungan pelabur.
“Pengenalan CMSA menandakan peningkatan penting terhadap pendekatan SC dalam mengawal selia pasaran. Ia menyediakan tapak bagi SC mencapai hasil utama pengawalseliaan berhubung dengan perlindungan pelabur, integriti pasaran dan kestabilan sistemik,” kata Pengerusi SC, Dato’ Zarinah Anwar.

CMSA memberikan perlindungan yang lebih besar kepada pelabur melalui:

meningkatkan kuasa SC untuk mengambil tindakan sivil dan tindakan pentadbiran,
membolehkan SC mendapatkan semula tiga kali ganda daripada jumlah kerugian melalui tindakan sivil bagi pelbagai kesalahan tatalaku pasaran yang lebih meluas termasuk manipulasi pasaran,
menghendaki wang permohonan pelabur sofistikated dipegang atas amanah dalam amalan penjanaan dana,
meningkatkan standard pemegang amanah bagi pemegang debentur, dan
meluaskan peruntukan perlindungan pelabur kepada pelanggan-pelanggan institusi kewangan.
Satu langkah penting CMSA yang memberi manfaat kepada pengantara pasaran modal ialah memperkenalkan satu rejim pelesenan tunggal. Di bawah langkah ini, pengantara hanya memegang Lesen Pasaran Modal dan Perkhidmatan, berbanding pelbagai lesen berasingan sebagaimana sebelumnya. Ini mengurangkan kos pentadbiran dan tadbir urus dengan berkesan, dan yang pentingnya, menjimatkan masa.

Sebuah Buku Panduan Pelesenan yang memberikan penjelasan mengenai pelaksanaan rejim pelesenan tunggal turut dikeluarkan. Buku Panduan ini menyatakan, antara lain, bahawa pemegang Lesen Pasaran Modal dan Perkhidmatan dikehendaki menghadiri kursus latihan ekuiti mandatori di bawah Inisiatif Pembaharuan Industri (ITI), iaitu siri baru kursus latihan CPE yang dibiayai oleh Dana Pembangunan Pasaran Modal.

CMSA meningkatkan kecekapan proses penjanaan dana yang mana kelulusan SC tidak lagi diperlukan terhadap cadangan korporat seperti pecahan saham atau gabungan saham, dan kelayakan yang berhubungan dengan waran, opsyen atau hak.

Undang-undang tersebut memberikan lebih lagi dorongan terhadap kedudukan Malaysia sebagai sebuah hab kewangan Islam global yang berdaya saing dengan menyediakan peruntukan statutori yang jelas bagi mengiktiraf produk-produk Islam. Yang jelas, dalam CMSA, bank-bank Islam yang melaksanakan keseluruhan aktiviti pasaran modal bagi semua produk dan perkhidmatan berdasarkan Syariah akan secara automatik diberikan status ‘orang yang berdaftar’.

Bagi memastikan peralihan yang lancar kepada rangka kerja pengawalseliaan yang baru ini, SC telah memperkenalkan Capital Markets and Services Regulations 2007 dan Guidelines on Regulation of Markets, yang berkuat kuasa secara serentak dengan CMSA dan pindaan penting kepada Akta Suruhanjaya Sekuriti 1993.

Peruntukan berhubung dengan pengambilalihan dan percantuman dalam CMSA akan dikuatkuasakan pada tahun 2008 dengan semakan semula Kod Pengambilalihan dan Percantuman, yang akan diperkenalkan selepas perundingan dengan peserta industri.

CMSA, yang diluluskan oleh Parlimen pada bulan Mei 2007, menggabungkan Akta Perindustrian Sekuriti 1983, Akta Perindustrian Niaga Hadapan 1993 dan Bahagian IV Akta Suruhanjaya Sekuriti 1993 yang berkaitan dengan aktiviti menjana dana.

SC akan mengeluarkan satu siri Soalan Lazim mengenai ciri-ciri penting CMSA. Soalan-soalan tersebut, CMSA, Buku Panduan Pelesenan, Capital Markets and Services Regulations 2007 dan Guidelines on Regulation of Markets boleh didapati di www.sc.com.my mulai 28 September 2007.

Pertanyaan mengenai CMSA boleh dihantar kepada cmsa@seccom.com.my atau hubungi Jabatan Hal-Ehwal Korporat dan Antarabangsa melalui telefon di nombor 03-6204 8777.

SURUHANJAYA SEKURITI

Originally Posted by Unregistered

it is not ur fault, think this way, if ur friends make money from SC, will they give u half of their profit?

I think retuning your downlines the 10% you earned from them on the time they invested is fair because you are the one who bring them into this hot soup.

So how do we get back all our investments cash is the question now.

[xcesssbiz]

For now, you really need to wait for the outcome of the court proceeding. I supposed if there is any money to be returned to investors, you will need to provide documentary evidence of your investment including the amount you paid. The trouble with swisscash is that you hand money over and uplines or dealers usually do not provide any receipt or documents and everything is pretty much done online.

It is going to be very difficult but not impossible.

DID YOU ALL PRINT OUT THE INVESTMENT CERTIFICATE WHILE THE SC STILL OK, IF NOT FORGET ABOUT CLAIMING YOUR MONEY COZ YOU ALL DON'T HAVE THE PROVE OR EVIDENCE.

Originally Posted by xcesssbiz

For now, you really need to wait for the outcome of the court proceeding. I supposed if there is any money to be returned to investors, you will need to provide documentary evidence of your investment including the amount you paid. The trouble with swisscash is that you hand money over and uplines or dealers usually do not provide any receipt or documents and everything is pretty much done online.

It is going to be very difficult but not impossible.

We have the evidence as we printed out every transaction from the SC site when we buy points from the e-points dealers.

Originally Posted by xcesssbiz

Ah, well, the truth is that Michael Mansfield of Swisscash does not exist and he is just a mascot which the authorities know. You cannot bring a non-existent person to court and punish him because it would be a mockery of the court if they do so. It is like you cannot bring Mickey Mouse to court. If you want to sue, you sue the people behind the mask which would be Amir and his gang in Malaysia. Michael Mansfield is probably a creation of several groups of swisscash scammers, that is why sometimes his english in his press release can sound more malay, sometimes it sounded like a chinese trying to write english and sometimes his english improved a great deal. While other times, his english sounded more Middle Eastern.

If Michael Mansfield actually exists, he could have resolved all the issue by just making a presence and provide all the legal papers to state that it is real and apply for all the licenses. But it does not happen.

If he's not Micahel Mansfield than who is he?? Some janitor or photoshop expert creation (morphing technique)...if someone's using my picture without my consent, I'll sue them, or at least ask for some royalty.....ROYALTYYY...