EliteVentures - scam

Have any investors been paid so far in 2008?

Please be advised that should you be considering civil action against William Martinoli, you will want to be mindful of the date when you invested.

In most states, there is a two-year statute of limitations regarding normal matters of debt. We realize that there is NOT a statute of limitations on fraud in the United States, but should you want your law suit to proceed smoothly and expeditiously, you should file your complaints soon, thus eliminating the need for Plaintiffs to substantiate fraud. Be smart regarding this matter.

Additionally, check your state's limits in small claims matters. It may be prudent to utilize this court to limit additional out of pocket expenses.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Have any investors been paid so far in 2008?

Please be advised that should you be considering civil action against William Martinoli, you will want to be mindful of the date when you invested.

In most states, there is a two-year statute of limitations regarding normal matters of debt. We realize that there is NOT a statute of limitations on fraud in the United States, but should you want your law suit to proceed smoothly and expeditiously, you should file your complaints soon, thus eliminating the need for Plaintiffs to substantiate fraud. Be smart regarding this matter.

Additionally, check your state's limits in small claims matters. It may be prudent to utilize this court to limit additional out of pocket expenses.

Although it wouldn't be difficult to substantiate FRAUD in the case of eliteventures.net, your points are well taken.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

FROM EVS FORUM

To all the good Members of SUF:

It seems what ever I say in this forum it is turned around in other forums and used as proof that I am scamming you.

It was asked of me, why do I not go to those other forums and defend myself? What am I going to say? Yes I used a fictitious name? No I did nothing to intentionally hurt anyone? Yes I trusted in someone who was beyond all forms of calculation, a controlling egotistical crap head?

We are at a threshold where the information can be used for good or evil, and I dare not give my enemies the opportunity to derail my endeavor to make you whole. They are fear mongers and scandalous liars who convolute every word and deed to make it seem as evil as they are. They ridicule every member here, by association, and have not one scintilla of information to prove their accusations.

I know many of you are dissatisfied with the time it is taking, but we are at the mercy of others who have developed the opportunity that I invested in to generate funds for EV. Please remember, none of the funds you sent to EV were available to me to do this, it is my funds and those of others who are like minded in my endeavor who united to join an investment platform.

Times are such that legitimate opportunities like this are very cautious, and their due diligence is extensive and redundant, ergo they stretch things out. We are close, so very close.

I want your honest opinion and comments!

Please do not use foul language. it will be deleted, please do not argue amongst yourselves, you will be warned and silenced, please do not attack one another for your differing opinions. If you feel I have wronged you, say so. You will not be admonished for your honest beliefs so long as they are done under the above guidelines and it is civil.

Let me articulate this very clearly, my obligation to make the investors of EV whole by paying back their original deposits is not because of fear of reprisals from any legal action. If I were uncaring, I would hide behind the wall of protection that is afforded me by the contract with the EV members and the law that governs it. Here is some pertinent information many of the fear mongers have failed to express:
Any person who joined EV, did so through the website, and the acceptance of the terms and conditions were a pre-requisite to creating an account and thereby making an investment. Some will argue that they don’t think the “click wrap” type agreement, ie: where you must check a box to read the terms and or press accept without reading the terms, would obligate them to those terms and conditions. Do a little reading and you will find several US court cases that have upheld those “click wrap” type agreements: Feldman V. Google Inc 2007- court held them enforceable; Hotmail Corp V. Van Money Pie et al, the same; and there are many more.
As to recognition of an electronic acceptance as your signature the law as of June 30,2000 in the US and in all G-8 and G-7 countries, via treaty, has changed to accept the “ Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act” (e-sign act).
The base E-SIGN rule, set forth in section 101(a) of the Act, places electronic records and signatures on a legal par with their paper and ink counterparts.19 It provides that records and signatures relating to transactions in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce20 may not be denied legal effect, validity, or enforceability solely because they are in electronic form or because an electronic signature or electronic record is used in their formation.2

Why do I mention all this; because so many think otherwise, and I thought you would like some hard facts rather than innuendo and conjecture, or the ranting of some malcontent?

Also, prior to entry into the site you all were made aware, that EV was a Seychelles corporation, it was in the terms and conditions; on the main page of the web site; reported on Hyipranks; and also in this forum; in SUF, and the “whois” listed it also. You did not join a MO based corporation.

Under the 1994 International Business Corporations Act, which was the basis for EV’s Charter, EV was in full compliance, and there were no violations to its charter.
There are hundreds of e-gold deposits from the ev account to the “ev trust account” that was administered by Franc, and to his FLTD account. These facts are verifiable by third party administrators, and documents, not just by my word.
The fact of the matter is, many will never believe, and many will. I cannot change anyone’s minds; all I can do is try to do the right thing.

I am here, and I have tried to address the issues and concerns of everyone. Franc is not here, not bothered, not at all worried about any of you, yet there are those amongst you who continue to run me down and spread vicious rumors and lies about me.
Would any of you have stayed the course under such an attack. How many other Admins have stayed this course? Not even the infamous “Sam Collins”, stayed to take the heat. I have, and for some have made good on my promises of making them whole, and for the rest, it will take a little longer.

The reason why I stay is because I know I have not knowingly done anything illegal, and because of the membership’s faith and support. I want to finish for your sake.

Best regards;
AD

William would have you believe this crap. He's absolutely a bold faced liar. He is a crook that has perpetuated fraud on literally thousands of investors.

Why do you think he keeps stating that he is innocent? It's because he PRAYS that you will not come to your senses and call him what he is; a thief!

He has stolen our money, spent some of it and also invested some of it, ALL under the guise of a plan to return your investment. Give me a fricken break!

He claims that Franoz stole your money. The news is, Francoz took some of the money, but William has stolen more than he did. That's why he didn't pursue Francoz. Franco threatened him with exposure. It was outlined in the forums.

AND, there's not a court in the USA that would uphold his bullshirt claim that you agreed to have your money disappear.

Quit falling for his well rehearsed lies and wake up! The time to sue is NOW. One of the investors has lead the way and succeeded in bring his ARSS to court. I'm next on that ship. My suit was filed today! He is the lowest of the low. Worms don't crawl as low as he does.

Now, where's that loudmouth Joey Olsen aka Wolfie too. Hiding with here head up her ARSS as usual. She's as guilty as Martinoli. She's next to deal with.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

William would have you believe this crap. He's absolutely a bold faced liar. He is a crook that has perpetuated fraud on literally thousands of investors.

Why do you think he keeps stating that he is innocent? It's because he PRAYS that you will not come to your senses and call him what he is; a thief!

He has stolen our money, spent some of it and also invested some of it, ALL under the guise of a plan to return your investment. Give me a fricken break!

He claims that Franoz stole your money. The news is, Francoz took some of the money, but William has stolen more than he did. That's why he didn't pursue Francoz. Franco threatened him with exposure. It was outlined in the forums.

AND, there's not a court in the USA that would uphold his bullshirt claim that you agreed to have your money disappear.

Quit falling for his well rehearsed lies and wake up! The time to sue is NOW. One of the investors has lead the way and succeeded in bring his ARSS to court. I'm next on that ship. My suit was filed today! He is the lowest of the low. Worms don't crawl as low as he does.

Now, where's that loudmouth Joey Olsen aka Wolfie too. Hiding with here head up her ARSS as usual. She's as guilty as Martinoli. She's next to deal with.

tell us what you really think! it so happens that i agree just the same.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

tell us what you really think! it so happens that i agree just the same.

I've said it before, just contact the FBI and SEC. You'd be surprised what they know already!

So Sad said your Daddy when mamas milk went dry.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So Sad said your Daddy when mamas milk went dry.

that's Diddy, to you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

that's Diddy, to you.

funny!!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

William would have you believe this crap. He's absolutely a bold faced liar. He is a crook that has perpetuated fraud on literally thousands of investors.

Why do you think he keeps stating that he is innocent? It's because he PRAYS that you will not come to your senses and call him what he is; a thief!

He has stolen our money, spent some of it and also invested some of it, ALL under the guise of a plan to return your investment. Give me a fricken break!

He claims that Franoz stole your money. The news is, Francoz took some of the money, but William has stolen more than he did. That's why he didn't pursue Francoz. Franco threatened him with exposure. It was outlined in the forums.

AND, there's not a court in the USA that would uphold his bullshirt claim that you agreed to have your money disappear.

Quit falling for his well rehearsed lies and wake up! The time to sue is NOW. One of the investors has lead the way and succeeded in bring his ARSS to court. I'm next on that ship. My suit was filed today! He is the lowest of the low. Worms don't crawl as low as he does.

Now, where's that loudmouth Joey Olsen aka Wolfie too. Hiding with here head up her ARSS as usual. She's as guilty as Martinoli. She's next to deal with.

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto!

William's going to the pokey! Don't you know they'll love his big, fat ARSS!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is worth a re-post to include subtitle code § 1349 as both directly apply to the EV scam and addresses cause and action for co-conspirators:

§ 1343. Fraud by wire, radio, or television

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

§ 1349. Attempt and conspiracy

Any person who attempts or conspires to commit any offense under this chapter shall be subject to the same penalties as those prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the attempt or conspiracy.

This sums EV up in a nut shell.