Quatro-MPN, Pyramid-Ponzi-RRP all in one!

Hi Akim!

I do not know whom you are, I do not know the reason for why you writes as you do and I do not know why you do not find it necessary to come forward when you are arising these kind of serious accusations?

Of course I will not communicate with any stranger, of course not, and bare in mind you do NOT KNOW whom is writing to right now. It that correct? You just confirm my impression of an un suriouse and self occupied person, whom does not have more creativity in head than to sit down and criticize a company and owner which you do absolutely knows nothing about. And you show an bad character and education when you after poring out accusations are invited to receive it all, just not on your terms, so please stop abuse my integrity.

I am not a puppy in your theater here, you do not run the show and you show a week and childish character. Stop patronising me and show me you have more than soft rubber in your spine and any manhood at all in your life.

Your name, if you even have the guts to write this as your true name, bares the history of persons scared of their fellow citicent and neighbours. Out of history and reality, but I live in Sweden where we treat persons with respect and not Internet gossip because of scarceness, and so you of course know after the way you treats me in this website.

I see some one is writing about Quatro here as well, and this person is not me, but it shows this person nor I have nothing to hide ore be ashamed about. Just I will not go in to any "conversation" with a person whom I do not know and whom does not show any respect for other persons. If you want an audience, go and do something important for others ore the society, or find a part you can play in a theater. If you are as intelligent you obviously belive you are, use this intelligence by developing something for the best of the man kind. If you want to spend your time as you do, occupied by judging others based on hearsay's, feel free to do so if it pleases you and your ego. Small persons always works in the shadow and they never produces anything worth remembering them for after they've gone, so think of this.

Maybe you are a resource and could develop it together with me and Quatro, if you knew who we are and WHAT in fact we are about and doing. But this demands you getting away from your computer, out of your sofa, and start using your brain in positive matters.

You have my reply already, any other options for you to receive your information's from me direct does not exist, so I leave you with the words of a person whom was an entrepreneur for fact.

Wish you a happy life, just don't get happy stepping on others life.


Asle


"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity.
The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
Winston Churchill

Asle,

Who I am has no effect on if you are a criminal or no. I do not offer the public ponzi investments and fake stock while breaking the law, you do!
If I am Akim from the office next door or Akim from a small village in Indonesia does not change this fact.
You offer something to the public and the public has the right to know that what you do is a crime.

You act under several registered businesses and one of them is UK based. In this business you are breaking the law; failure to register for VAT is a crime.

You claim to work with “large Hedge Funds” in Qcoopers; do you really think that they will work with a company breaking the law?

I am a normal citizen who follows the law and I do not like when fraudsters try to convince innocent people that they have a legal business when they do not.

I will not go away because you call me “weak”, I will keep on pointing out why Quatro is a scam and you are a fraudster and the only way you can stop it is simply by providing the info you have to according to the law (in UK you actually have to display this info on your website for a UK company, so I am asking nothing that the law itself does not ask you to display, and it is public info, but everyone might not know this!)

This thread will soon become the first result when someone searches for "Quatro-MPN" on Goolge, so a simple answer to prove me wrong is important for your business if I am wrong, but we both know that I am not wrong.

Akim
(my real name)

Question 2 to Asle, CEO and founder, about the Quatro-MPN scam

In your pdf explanation about “vgc & qc” you state:

Quote/: “The VGC is a game between members and members engage in the
game at their own risk. They accept that the game is amongst the members and that the Quatro network and/or any member of the Quatro Group Worldwide do not participate in the game and cannot be held responsible for gains or losses between
the members.” /end quote

In the countries where you have registered companies, UK, Sweden and Seychelles, it is a criminal offence not to have a gaming licence for any game that involves people and money.
Where do you have a gaming license for your activities?

This is another question about something that should be published on your website to meet the requirements of the law; it has nothing to do with who I am or what my name is. It is only a matter if you, Mr Frydenlund, are a criminal or not and if Quatro-MPN is a scam or not.

Akim

Akim is a funny guy, right?

so "AKIM" what company are you innvolved in ?
most of the people i know who search info for a serious reason, they
make an apointment and meet the company, then you would get all your questions answerd
and on top see everyting with your own eyes, like i did when i join this fantastic opportunity for over
a year ago.

But i would love to hear what you are working with ..was it AKIM? :-)

Best regards a Quatro Member from Sweden and near by the office in Linkoping

Originally Posted by Unregistered Asle, Who I am has no effect on if you are a criminal or no. I do not offer the public ponzi investments and fake stock while breaking the law, you do! If I am Akim from the office next door or Akim from a small village in Indonesia does not change this fact. You offer something to the public and the public has the right to know that what you do is a crime. You act under several registered businesses and one of them is UK based. In this business you are breaking the law; failure to register for VAT is a crime. You claim to work with “large Hedge Funds” in Qcoopers; do you really think that they will work with a company breaking the law? I am a normal citizen who follows the law and I do not like when fraudsters try to convince innocent people that they have a legal business when they do not. I will not go away because you call me “weak”, I will keep on pointing out why Quatro is a scam and you are a fraudster and the only way you can stop it is simply by providing the info you have to according to the law (in UK you actually have to display this info on your website for a UK company, so I am asking nothing that the law itself does not ask you to display, and it is public info, but everyone might not know this!) This thread will soon become the first result when someone searches for "Quatro-MPN" on Goolge, so a simple answer to prove me wrong is important for your business if I am wrong, but we both know that I am not wrong. Akim (my real name)

Thank you.
Most of my friends actually say that I am a “funny guy”.
I am not sure what this has to do with your little scam, but anyway.
I also fail to understand what my business has to do with yours, or what I do for a living has to do with Quatro.
I started my business over 30 years ago, we have a good reputation on three continents and I intent to keep this reputation. I would not want my company’s good name mentioned anywhere close to Quatro-MPN.
Since your CEO (if it now really is him writing here, answers are formulated in such a way that I find it hard to believe that it is actually written by an adult) choose to attack the history of my first name and me in person instead of answering a simple question I can of course give you some more info about why I am writing this for the public to see.
In one of our offices we have a young man with a young family, he might not have the highest education and was probably not presented with the easiest alternatives in his life, but he is the father of 3 young children and a very hard working man. Since his youngest son has special needs the family suffers financially.
It is not cheep to have children with special needs and life can be pretty grim at times. In the office we had a small fund raiser to ease the financial burden on the family. At a barbeque held for this occasion the young father told me proudly that he had joined Quatro-MPN and all the fantastic things this would do for the family’s financial situation. He felt that this would give the family extra security in case he himself had a serious injury or an accident.
When hearing what he told me it just sounded a little “too good to be true”. But since I am a business man my self I know that this can happen and normally only requires the normal Due Diligence to be done a little more deep then is usual.
My finding was nothing but horrifying. I have collected information about Quatro-MPN and how it is run from several open sources, and some not so open.
Quatro-MPN is a scam, and I have set my mind on showing that not only to the public but I will also make sure that the right authorities have the correct info about your business.
Why? Because you took an innocent and hard working young man’s money, money that he could have used in much better ways for his family. I fear that this is not the only person in the same situation. Your concept is built to prey on people who are less fortunate in financial terms and give them hope of future riches.
This is done in illegal ways and forms. Business that are incorrectly registered for the function they are supposed to fill and with tactics that are considered criminal in most if not all countries.
If this was asked about my business I would have had someone respond to it the same moment it was noticed:

1. VAT? I am very sorry that we “missed//did not know/ or what ever” that we needed to publish such a simple fact as our VAT number on the website. The correct number is “UK************”.
2. Our gaming license? I don’t know how you got the impression we don’t have one, we are registered in XXXXXXX and approved by XXXXXX, our license number is XXXXXXX.
3. If you have any further doubts or questions about our business please contact our Customer Care department on xxxxxxxxx.
This is how my company would respond to such accusations; no one would ever see me trying to ridicule someone’s name or history to avoid answering the questions.
But then again, I would never find myself in the situation of being asked questions about a fraud.
So far I have brought up two small things, both punishable by law, about your business and your complete failure to reply to both of them only show everyone reading this forum that what I say is correct.
I have much more for you Mr Frydenlund.

Sincerely yours,

Akim

Det Quatro bedriver är kriminellt. Hur länge får Frydenlund och Uno Karlsson vara på fri fot? Det finns en polisanmälan på dom i Linköping. Till Norge vågar nog aldrig Frydenlund återvända. Där har han många fiender.

Hi Akim!

Your quote:

In one of our offices we have a young man with a young family, he might not have the highest education and was probably not presented with the easiest alternatives in his life, but he is the father of 3 young children and a very hard working man. Since his youngest son has special needs the family suffers financially.
It is not cheep to have children with special needs and life can be pretty grim at times. In the office we had a small fund raiser to ease the financial burden on the family. At a barbeque held for this occasion the young father told me proudly that he had joined Quatro-MPN and all the fantastic things this would do for the family’s financial situation. He felt that this would give the family extra security in case he himself had a serious injury or an accident.

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This persom working with you lived, as you did, in Croatia and has a son with problemes, The swedish athoroties would ore could not help his son and he wanted to bring his son to Croatia for treatment and for this he needed money. He therefor came to my office and we gave him the money, in fact his money out of his profit from investments, he needed to go there. He came with his son and he is indeed a good man as you writes. When he came to me was because he was WITHOUT WORK and did not have ANY FAMILY OR FRIENDS whom could help him, so then he came to Quatro and asked for a part of his invested money. Which we paid to him of course,

So please do not create any more lies arround matters you do know nothing about, and this person, whom of course I personally know, would gladly bring you to visite me, since you really are my "neighbour". So you'r welcome.

If you did know the law of registering for VAT in UK you would also know there is a verry hugh minumum VAT to register BEFORE you are to register. So please find out if you'd like.

The laws for organizations and CLOSED GROUPS is covered with laws but not the ones you ar reffering to, you simply ar guessing ore with purpose lying out of a reason I do not understand. And since you do live here close to me it's even more strange you resists to visite us here, so I belive you have other motives, so I agree with the other person asking for the same.

It does say the "Profit Sharing Systeme" of Quatro, calculated with QC and VGC is all 100% virtual. So even it's NOT a game it's a systeme with only VIRTUAL values. Like in the game Monopoly, which I hope you recognize, and this game is legal in any countries world wide? It's as a system ONLY available for members in our closed group, so please study about these few details as well.

I could continue on pages proving to you ALL of your accusations ore presumptions you writes here is because you have a hidden agenda. This I can share with you, now as we even have the same friend!!! So why don't you crawl out from your hiding and come to see me.

So I am offering you all the ammunition you needs to fire at me IF you come and see me, so why would'n¨t a person whom are the white angel protecting his friends and this planet from the ugly demon as me and Quatro come forward and RECEIVE the facts he does not have??? Because you then might have to crawl back under your hiding again in shame of what you have done and said, I am used to being attacked by persons whom does not understand and have hidden agendas, so I bare no hard feeling to anyone. With exceptions of persons trying to harm us out of a personal and hidden aganda to enrichen them selves.

By the way! Did your frind tell you we are planning a school with a health center in your country, for children in need?

I wish you a happy weekend and give our mutual friend my regards.


Asle

Quote/:”This persom working with you lived, as you did, in Croatia and has a son with problemes, The swedish athoroties would ore could not help his son and he wanted to bring his son to Croatia for treatment and for this he needed money. He therefor came to my office and we gave him the money, in fact his money out of his profit from investments, he needed to go there. He came with his son and he is indeed a good man as you writes. When he came to me was because he was WITHOUT WORK and did not have ANY FAMILY OR FRIENDS whom could help him, so then he came to Quatro and asked for a part of his invested money. Which we paid to him of course, “ /end quote

Answer: I never lived in Croatia and it is one of the few countries in Europe that I have not yet had the pleasure to visit, but I am sure I will in the future.
The person I refer to does have a job, he works in one of my offices. I am not familiar in depth with his social life, but at the fund raiser I did meet with some of his friends and family.


Quote/:”So please do not create any more lies arround matters you do know nothing about, and this person, whom of course I personally know, would gladly bring you to visite me, since you really are my "neighbour". So you'r welcome. “ /end quote

Answer: I am obviously not the person you think I am. I am not your “neighbour”. We do not even reside in the same country.


Quote/:”If you did know the law of registering for VAT in UK you would also know there is a verry hugh minumum VAT to register BEFORE you are to register. So please find out if you'd like. “ /end quote

Answer: I guess the “huge minimum” is a matter of what you think is “huge”. So you mean that Quatro-MPN has not sold for £68 000 (about 750 000 SEK) in the last 12 months. This is when you would register for VAT. When I read your old news letters the sales seem to be higher then this. But if your turnover really is less then the average corner-shop selling newspapers then of course you do not have to register for VAT. I think that the impression you try to give people is something else.


Quote/:”The laws for organizations and CLOSED GROUPS is covered with laws but not the ones you ar reffering to, you simply ar guessing ore with purpose lying out of a reason I do not understand. And since you do live here close to me it's even more strange you resists to visite us here, so I belive you have other motives, so I agree with the other person asking for the same.
It does say the "Profit Sharing Systeme" of Quatro, calculated with QC and VGC is all 100% virtual. So even it's NOT a game it's a systeme with only VIRTUAL values. Like in the game Monopoly, which I hope you recognize, and this game is legal in any countries world wide? It's as a system ONLY available for members in our closed group, so please study about these few details as well./end Quote

Answer: I do not live close to you, even if you seem to think so. The questions that I have taken up here are things that should be displayed on your website according to the law, This is a fact no matter if I did live in your office or on the other side of the world.
Further more, if my name is John Smith, David Clarke or Akim does not change the laws and has no effect on if you are breaking the law or not. I am not interested in hearing a reason WHY you break the law, I am only interested in making the public aware of the fact that YOU are breaking the law!
In Monopoly the players do not have to pay in REAL money before playing and the winner does not get paid out REAL money at the end.
To arrange such a game you actually have to have a licence. You explanation that it is for a closed group is not correct. It would, as a matter of fact, be a crime for you and your employees to play poker for money in the office and even in your home, closed group or not!


Quote/:” I could continue on pages proving to you ALL of your accusations ore presumptions you writes here is because you have a hidden agenda. This I can share with you, now as we even have the same friend!!! So why don't you crawl out from your hiding and come to see me.
So I am offering you all the ammunition you needs to fire at me IF you come and see me, so why would'n¨t a person whom are the white angel protecting his friends and this planet from the ugly demon as me and Quatro come forward and RECEIVE the facts he does not have??? Because you then might have to crawl back under your hiding again in shame of what you have done and said, I am used to being attacked by persons whom does not understand and have hidden agendas, so I bare no hard feeling to anyone. With exceptions of persons trying to harm us out of a personal and hidden aganda to enrichen them selves”. / end Quote

Answer: Why not prove to all readers how wrong I am by simply pointing us in the direction of the law that says that you can play games (or have “systems”) online for members (or closed groups) for real money with out the need for a license. Since it is the law you follow for your game/system it must be easy to post it here. Go on! Prove to all how wrong I am about Quarto-MPN!


Quote/:” By the way! Did your frind tell you we are planning a school with a health center in your country, for children in need? / end Quote

Answer: No he did not. I what city is that?

Quote/:” I wish you a happy weekend and give our mutual friend my regards. / end Quote

Answer: I will pass on the message and wish you a happy weekend too

Akim

It does say the "Profit Sharing Systeme" of Quatro, calculated with QC and VGC is all 100% virtual. So even it's NOT a game it's a systeme with only VIRTUAL values. Like in the game Monopoly, which I hope you recognize, and this game is legal in any countries world wide? It's as a system ONLY available for members in our closed group, so please study about these few details as well.

Don't forget to tell your members that the money that they see in their backoffice is virttual too.
LOL

Mr Frydenlund !

You are asking Akim to crawl out from his hiding and come to see you. The way I see it, Akim is out of hiding and out in the open for everyone to follow. Why do you want him to crawl into hiding in your office where we can’t follow your arguments?

Akim is asking for an answer to two simple questions, and so am I.
Guess you have already answered the VAT question by saying: quote"there is a verry hugh minumum VAT to register before you are to register" end quote. I take your answer as a confirmation your annual turnover is less than £68 000.
Regarding the gaming license I read your answer as all transactions are virtual money (monopoly money) so therefore you are not required to have a license. That must be all transactions AFTER the players have paid their stake with real money or? Am I to understand that all payouts will be in virtual (monopoly) money as well?

If you make Akim a believer – on a public forum- you have made us all believers. Why don’t you go for it Mr Frydenlund. After all, he has in so many words labelled you as a fraudster, liar and a cheat.
Could it be because the questions asked by Akim are well founded and not frivolous or promiscuous?!. Or are you not a fraudster liar and a cheat?
I fully understand why you would like to have Akim behind closed doors at you location. I would like that too if someone kicked my family jewels in public, but every one understand this is not going to happen so I plead with you again Mr Frydenlund, please come forward in public and not behind closed doors and privacy of your office.