How do I get a CT order to make liberty reserve reverse and pay me back money I lost

[DIRRIDO]

Hello everyone,

I joined this forum today and it's nice to see the thread on this topic od scams. I recently lost $202 on an HYIP called Vervillecapital.com and when I wrote Liberty reserve to refund the money I paid this scam programme -simply take it out of their Lr acct and reverse it back into my acct, they gave me the below reply and said I had to get a ct order to get them to do thay. Question is how possible,how quickly and how easily can I get this ct order. People are loosing millions in these hyips, and I wander if there is a way to get back the money.

Below is the reply Liberty reserve sent me.
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Dear Libertyreserve

made the below investment on 5th May and they have run off with my $202 knowing they have your support and connivance LIberty REServE!!!!

PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF YOR CONNIVANCE WITH FRAUDLENT HYIPS AND FRAUDULENT MERCHANTS AND IF THE PUBLUIC IN THESE Hard times get upset enough, you might see Massive disappearnace of Customers from Eforex altogether!!
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Dear Customer,

Please note that all the payments in Liberty Reserve are irrevocable. Members are responsible and encouraged to perform their own due diligence of any business they wish to deal with on-line, whether it's an investment or just an on-line store. Please make sure you read Customer Alerts and our Terms of Service for more information.

We will need an order from court to reverse those transactions. However you may contact our Abuse department, they will contact you with further information.

Thank you.

[Gregg]

you can't get liberty reserve to refund you and you shouldn't expect them to. You put money in LR and told them to send it to the HYIP, the HYIP ripped you off, and they should give you a refund, but of course they won't.

My advice is quit dealing with HYIPs in general and of course, all the payment processors who deal with HYIPs as well.

[MrRyz]

Originally Posted by Gregg you can't get liberty reserve to refund you and you shouldn't expect them to. You put money in LR and told them to send it to the HYIP, the HYIP ripped you off, and they should give you a refund, but of course they won't. My advice is quit dealing with HYIPs in general and of course, all the payment processors who deal with HYIPs as well.

I have to agree with Gregg on this one.

Unfortunately, it's all part of LR's terms of agreement. You agreed to be responsible for whoever and whatever you sent money to from the second you clicked the "confirm payment" button. If LR sent you any money back, they would have done so as an act of kindness. Legally, they are obligated to do nothing.

Whether you may know or not at the time, you still learned a very valuable lesson in all this. HYIPs are bad news. Steer clear on them in the future and you'll be much happier at the end of the day.

Originally Posted by MrRyz I have to agree with Gregg on this one. Unfortunately, it's all part of LR's terms of agreement. You agreed to be responsible for whoever and whatever you sent money to from the second you clicked the "confirm payment" button. If LR sent you any money back, they would have done so as an act of kindness. Legally, they are obligated to do nothing. Whether you may know or not at the time, you still learned a very valuable lesson in all this. HYIPs are bad news. Steer clear on them in the future and you'll be much happier at the end of the day.

Except that the only reason for LR and the rest to exist is to facilitate these scams. They should be prosecuted under RICO.

[Gregg]

Not really. I agree they're scum, and I really think they should be much more tightly regulated, but they're not. They provide a legal (in Canada, US Companies cannot do this kind of business, for a reason) service and they did what you instructed them to do, take your money and send it to someone you told them to send it to.
The RICO charge is interesting, though. If it could be demonstrated that they know that a specific customer was doing something illegal, well, maybe, but it's a long shot. Especially as they are not in the US, it'll be a tough nut to make. I do encourage you to make a complaint to Canadian officials, though, it can't hurt and eventually they'll see that allowing anyone and their brother to operate a Payment Processor might not be a good idea and require them to meet the same regulations that the US does, ie: put up a deposit, submit to background checks, allow chargebacks for scams....