Pathway-2-Prosperity - Pathway-2-Poverty - Pathway-2-Ponzi

Originally Posted by Unregistered

OK,, you believe what ever you want -- or need to, so you can rationalize this program --

i don't believe it, i was just being sarcastic...duh

Originally Posted by Unregistered

To all you people who like bashing I don't even know why I am saying anything as you all are a joke but here goes.
I've been in p2p for a year now and my last check last week was $26,000. So while you b***** and complain, continue your day job while I vacation year round and laughing all the way to the bank as I love seening those $10,000 checks coming in every Friday. Pay DAY baby!!! ))

No I do not LIKE bashing. Just trying to give you guys a heads up. That was yesterday though when I was feeling merciful. But today im not. So keep on pouring your money into these things and believing till the end. Makes it easier for me to get MY money out. LOL. Its funny. I used to sound just like you guys when I defended my "program." Way back when I was a clueless sheep. If you dont believe me click on this link and go to page nine and look at my posts form a few years ago. Look for "shocfacter." I go by that name on these boards whenever I get around to registering on them.

12dailypro.com paid ( not a scam )

And this one on starting on page 9:

Studiotraffic - Not a scam - I got paid!

Notie how the posts in these strings follow the exact same pathway as the string we are on now with the exact same points being brought up by the pumpers and the bashers. See the thing is, much to my shagrin, the bashers were mostly right unfortunately. As soon as people get into the mindset that these things are NOT investments but just another form of gambling then there wont be so many heart broken people when they finally do go under.

Yo quiero saber si P2P va a la mierda?

The excuses P2P is pitching to members regarding the delay in payouts is getting TOTALLY pathetic! My friend has a lot of money "pending" but when he mentions anything on the forum he gets shot down, trampled on and threatened by mods that he will be expelled from the program. I asked him why they are so stupid and make promises over and over again they never keep? Wouldn't it just be smarter to shut up? Guess not huh. Can't keep members hanging in there and new ones hopping on board if you don't hold out the carrot on the stick.

I told him it's time to pull all his cash out before it's too late. Who knows if he'll listen tho?! I feel bad 4 him since he has not received a dime back yet on the cash he invested over 6 months ago. He says he reinvested the money 2X (so for 4 months) but when it came time to cash out the system went down. Still he is supposed to mind his Ps & Qs and be grateful for the opportunity to be there. They should be grateful he's there in my opinion. Afterall he's given them a fair chunk of change and P2P hasn't delivered anything to him yet. What's he supposed to be grateful for exactly?? For updates that never materialize or mods that bark at you or belittle you when you ask about YOUR $. They tell him they are compiling a list of all the "uncoopertaive and impatient" members who post questions about delays that just get longer and longer. They said 2 payout per day were supposed to start quite a while ago but when I talked to my buddy today he said it took from Sept 9 - today to pay 2 lousy days.

Just think about it. He says there is 30,000 members and I'm thinking if they all put in even $500 someone has got a nice big fat bank account with $15 million bucks in it!!!! Even at a crappy interest rate that capital has been earning someone money for the past few months and obviously it isn't the meek little P2P sheep...ummm....members.

In the meantime I saw some posts a few weeks back where people were literally begging for help from the membership so they could pay rent and get utility bills caught up before disconnection. The response they got was "you shouldn't have been so stupid and invested money you couldn't afford to risk. This is your own fault so figure it out on your own! It isn't appropriate to solicit $ on the forum!!" Well let's beat a person when they're already down and out. That seems like a nice thing to do...right? Listen, you told these people they could count on you to make them $ and now it's their fault YOU told them lies?

I was disgusted to say the least! It says right on there home page that it's time to stop worrying about making money on the net and that they pay in 10 business days. Ok so some things got screwed up and things got behind. But like I said, is the person with the $15 million worried he's going to get tossed in the street along with his kids with nowhere to go? These people trusted P2P and now they are told they should have been smarter? So much of taking care of the average guy. Letting someone sweat like that for weeks on end promising again and again payouts were coming that didn't and then calling them stupid! Oh and the post right after the one by the poor distraught member getting her power cut or thrown in the street is one praising the admin for "allowing" them to be in the program and what a great guy Nick is. $15 million bucks in your account and you sit back knowing she is freaking out so much she has decided to beg on the site and you allow your moderators to put her down and call her an idiot. Oh yeah, that is a real nice guy alright.

I won't be joining the club that's for sure. And I hope my friend gets out ASAP.

[shocfacter]

Originally Posted by MRMIKE42

I did as you suggested. I could find nothing in all the articles with anyone in the P2P hierarchy mentioned as criminal participants or co-conspirators. Oh, I found a lot of hearsay, but no evidence. So please show us where Nick Smirnow, Gary or Chris are mentioned as persons said by any legal authorities to be found committing any crime with any enterprise. Skip the hearsay. That's not proof or evidence of anything. Let's get your charges legitimized here and now. We're all anxious to see just how authoritative a source you really are (or aren't).

Time to pony up and produce! Of course the risk here for you is that if you can't produce the judgments of legal entities, including courts and agencies, naming Nick, Gary or Chris as criminals or indicted co-conspirators or co-defendant's, etc., you will quickly become one of my EZ TARGETS for ridicule and shameless ignorance.

We're all here waiting. Let's see some evidence.

Ok so I thought Id register being that ive been going back and forth with you sheeple now for a few a couple of days All those unregistered posts on the last few pages with the blue un-smiley with the 3 ???'s above it are mine. Anyway in response to the above, the Ironic thing is that the "proof" and "Evidence" you are looking for will be P2P itself pretty soon here.

[shocfacter]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

After reading this entire forum today I decided that there is no reason for me to think that this is not a legitimate investment. Perhaps it looks like other programs that went down in past but I see no reason not to believe that the administrator of this program is not making real investments. It would have went down already if a scam. I realize there is a chance that it is but looks good to me. I am joining.

WOW. Hey I know someone selling some ocean front property that he's been trying to get rid of for a while and I think you'll be interested in it. Its in Kansas. Just let me know if you're interested and we'll get you guys together to talk numbers.

Originally Posted by shocfacter

WOW. Hey I know someone selling some ocean front property that he's been trying to get rid of for a while and I think you'll be interested in it. Its in Kansas. Just let me know if you're interested and we'll get you guys together to talk numbers.

Hey if you've got intelligent things to say then say them -- don't just set there and think that you can say what you want, because you can't -- name or unregistered --

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Money that you "roll over" doesn't count until it's real money in your hands. Given that they are 70+ days late in making payments from the time that an actual withdrawl is requested and that the delay has been growing longer, being realistic, you also need to count that time for payment beyond the term. So as it now stands, the time would be 60 days for the term + 70 days waiting for the money = a minimum of about 130 days from the time your money goes in.

Can you show me where I said roll over money was real money in your hands?
I don't think so. Now, please tell me how you arrived that the payments were 70 + days late? I think you are another perfect example of someone talking without merit. (or facts) I'm going to try to explain this to your simple mind. Payouts for June 30th were made. Now we go to the month of July. 31 days in July minus 8 days for the weekends. 31 days in August minus 10 days for
the weekends. So now we're at 44 days. Then for September there are 10
days ( minus the weekends) for a total of 54. Now subtract the 10 business days for the payments per terms and you have 44 days. That is the accurate number of days payments are behind. And guaranteed it will be caught up. Makes you look like an idiot now doesn't it? Actually is just shows your agenda. You and all the others that are either disgruntled exmembers, or just plain jealous you didn't get in on this from the start, or just jealous of people continually saying how much money they are making.
I don't know what your reasons for lying about the program are but it makes no difference. I would think you would have better things to do with your time. The only reason I even responded to your post was to set the record straight on the late payments that have been so over exaggerated.
Get on with your life. Really.




Not done yet. Subtract 10 business days per terms for payments, and you have 44 Days that payments are behind. So where did you come up with 70+ days? Quite obviously you are one who likes to exaggerate and "stretch the truth" to make a point. The thing is it doesn't matter what you naysayers post because it matters to no one. Just keep on with your "exaggerations of how

this is a ponzi and Nick is going to jail, and we are going to lose money. It doesn't

[shocfacter]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The excuses P2P is pitching to members regarding the delay in payouts is getting TOTALLY pathetic! My friend has a lot of money "pending" but when he mentions anything on the forum he gets shot down, trampled on and threatened by mods that he will be expelled from the program. I asked him why they are so stupid and make promises over and over again they never keep? Wouldn't it just be smarter to shut up? Guess not huh. Can't keep members hanging in there and new ones hopping on board if you don't hold out the carrot on the stick.

I told him it's time to pull all his cash out before it's too late. Who knows if he'll listen tho?! I feel bad 4 him since he has not received a dime back yet on the cash he invested over 6 months ago. He says he reinvested the money 2X (so for 4 months) but when it came time to cash out the system went down. Still he is supposed to mind his Ps & Qs and be grateful for the opportunity to be there. They should be grateful he's there in my opinion. Afterall he's given them a fair chunk of change and P2P hasn't delivered anything to him yet. What's he supposed to be grateful for exactly?? For updates that never materialize or mods that bark at you or belittle you when you ask about YOUR $. They tell him they are compiling a list of all the "uncoopertaive and impatient" members who post questions about delays that just get longer and longer. They said 2 payout per day were supposed to start quite a while ago but when I talked to my buddy today he said it took from Sept 9 - today to pay 2 lousy days.

Just think about it. He says there is 30,000 members and I'm thinking if they all put in even $500 someone has got a nice big fat bank account with $15 million bucks in it!!!! Even at a crappy interest rate that capital has been earning someone money for the past few months and obviously it isn't the meek little P2P sheep...ummm....members.

In the meantime I saw some posts a few weeks back where people were literally begging for help from the membership so they could pay rent and get utility bills caught up before disconnection. The response they got was "you shouldn't have been so stupid and invested money you couldn't afford to risk. This is your own fault so figure it out on your own! It isn't appropriate to solicit $ on the forum!!" Well let's beat a person when they're already down and out. That seems like a nice thing to do...right? Listen, you told these people they could count on you to make them $ and now it's their fault YOU told them lies?

I was disgusted to say the least! It says right on there home page that it's time to stop worrying about making money on the net and that they pay in 10 business days. Ok so some things got screwed up and things got behind. But like I said, is the person with the $15 million worried he's going to get tossed in the street along with his kids with nowhere to go? These people trusted P2P and now they are told they should have been smarter? So much of taking care of the average guy. Letting someone sweat like that for weeks on end promising again and again payouts were coming that didn't and then calling them stupid! Oh and the post right after the one by the poor distraught member getting her power cut or thrown in the street is one praising the admin for "allowing" them to be in the program and what a great guy Nick is. $15 million bucks in your account and you sit back knowing she is freaking out so much she has decided to beg on the site and you allow your moderators to put her down and call her an idiot. Oh yeah, that is a real nice guy alright.

I won't be joining the club that's for sure. And I hope my friend gets out ASAP.

This story sounds EXACTLY like the stories that come out on ALL these program's boards at the end of their life cycle. Im trying to get these sheeple on here to realize this and the fact that P2P is just the same Piece of shate but just in a different suit.

Originally Posted by shocfacter

Ok so I thought Id register being that ive been going back and forth with you sheeple now for a few a couple of days All those unregistered posts on the last few pages with the blue un-smiley with the 3 ???'s above it are mine. Anyway in response to the above, the Ironic thing is that the "proof" and "Evidence" you are looking for will be P2P itself pretty soon here.

Yep! That is right. It won't be long now. I can hardly wait. Onwards and Upwards