Pathway-2-Prosperity - Pathway-2-Poverty - Pathway-2-Ponzi

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hey aholes guess what sorry to disappoint all you losers p2p is paying the 9th now and will continue to pay in the future. All you idiots can hope for that your wish would comes thru but guess what it ain't going to happen. So quit your BULL **** false lying prognosis and move on. p2p is here to stay and pay well in spite of what you losers hope will happen. Get a life and quit trying to bring a good program down.

Unfortunately it has taken 4 days to achieve payouts for June the 8th.

So is it to be 7.75 payment days per month? Getting further and further behind.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Another great post!! Do not put your money in this scam!!

I'm not sure how much progress has been made - MCF would seem to be down (no surprise - Kent has been pushing p-2-p so hard he'd have some tough questions to answer in there right now otherwise!) - which is my usual source of payments information, but last I saw June 8th was not yet complete although I'm expecting them to get there around now and make a start on June 9th before July is complete. This is based on how fast they have been paying of late combined with an assumption that as more people get worried by the lag in payments money in decreases further and the delays increase in a vicious cycle.

At some point things will collapse to the point where either 'Nick' doesn't have enough coming in to keep the servers up, or the margin is too low to be worth the hassle, there is simply not enough coming in to ever complete payments for a particular day of requests, or 'the authorities' move in and shut him down. The last of these becomes more likely the more people file complaints, which will be increasing as payments get later and later, albeit perhaps from a low or zero base considering the extremity of the 'cult-like' following that, for reasons I cannot fathom, p-2-p seems to have attracted. Consequently I think the first three (i.e. unpaid bills, not worth the trouble or never enough to complete payments for the next pending request day) are more likely to be the cause for 'the end' in this case.

Based on experience, general mathematical aptitude and a certain amount of intuition (probably no more than further, sub-conscious calculation resulting from qualitative rather than quantitative assessments of the nature of this 'program' and those associated with it) I have a strong feeling that June 9th, i.e. the day of requests either being paid out now or about to be paid, represents the point where these factors are in the balance, i.e. it is as likely that p-2-p will fail while this day is paying out than not. That is why I stated "My guess is that June 8th will probably be completed (about 60% likely), June 9th is less certain (50/50), then downhill from there (c. 40% chance June 10th will be completed, 30% for June 11th, etc.)".

This is not an exact science of course, which is why the probabilities drop off relatively slowly as the days pass. However, it is clearly a one-way street now, and with each day taking at least a week to pay out, and this period getting longer each time, it is clear that the probability of failure is increasing for each one, which is why 60% for June 8th being completed reduces to 50% for June 9th, down to c. 40% for June 10th, 30% for June 11th, etc.; if we do get past June 9th then I expect it will take most, if not all of August to complete payments from the next two days with the probability of failure from any, or a combination of the four factors I referred to above increasing by the day, at a rate to cause the dropping off of chance of payment completed I have indicated.

Post that things get less predictable, but the general trend will continue. Assuming 'Nick' continues what appears to be his current modus operandi of attempting to complete one day's requested payments before starting the next, then we'll see a tailing off of completion probabilities as we move towards the fall, when I expect, in the unlikely event that this is still running, we'll be down to about 10% for June 15th as I stated next: "If they get to June 15th I will be surprised; it's not impossible just unlikely (c. 10% chance or so), and anything much past that is less likely still". Around this time, based on current rates of slowing, we'd be looking at of the order a month to gather enough funds to complete just one more day's worth of requests, causing all but the pathologically hypnotised to see the light and drop out.

This is why, even if we do get that far (i.e. mid June request payouts), which I am saying is very unlikely (c. 10%), probabilities of each day's requests being completed will continue to tail off rapidly. We'd be lost in the depths of winter before another week of payment requests could be completed, when addition factors come into play, not the least of which is the holiday season observed by the great majority of p-2-p's customer base (nearly exclusively North American looking at the Alexa stats), which is the reasoning behind my final sentence: "After about June 22nd the probability drops to around 1%, and the probabilities past that are as close to zero as makes no difference". Things are so uncertain past this point that I do not consider it meaningful to assess further probabilities, but I posit that, in any case, for most here anything with a probability of success less than one-in-a-hundred has long ago ceased to resemble an 'investment' and can therefore be ignored.

Well, for those that have read this far, most of whom will almost certainly have received far more detail than they could ever have wanted, please bear in mind that Finix asked for "the exact basis for the predictions and calculations posted here by some members" (my emphasis), and I have attempted to give that. I am a mathematician by education, a computer scientist by occupation, and an amateur lawyer through repeated involvement in litigation, so I do tend to have a somewhat more 'precise' sense of words such as 'exact' than many are used to. However, I do tend to find that, in nearly all aspects of life, the little extra time required to perform analysis at the finer level of granularity required to maintain this level of detailed foresight is a very good investment indeed.

In summary, I hope this has provided some insight into my methods, and for those still confused about what I am saying, let me put it into three sentences: Pathway-2-prosperity is a 'spent' Ponzi scheme towards the end of its lifecycle. It will most likely stop paying out altogether before payments requested up until mid June have been completed, and certainly before all payments requested up until the end of June have been made. The website may still be up, but payments are trickling out so slowly that, to all intents and purposes the program is dead already, and very few 'investors', if any, will receive payments from this point on.

Again, commiserations to all those who have lost money here.



PS Consider suing whoever referred you into the program, or the likes of Kent Black if you saw one of his many newscasts over at 24surfmonitor (also down at the time of posting!) encouraging people to 'invest' in p-2-p, which may be more likely to succeed than simply filing a claim against p-2-p and 'Nick' alone, both of which are very unlikely to be straight-forward to track down if past history in this arena are anything to go by. Consider getting a group of you together to reduce your legal costs as individuals, and good luck!

There you go you losers saying stupid stuff! If you had any brains you would figure out that MCF is not down and that they are reporting payments for the 9th but i won't tell you how to open MCF. That's all you losers know how to say that it's a scam, that it's going down And the great man that Nick is and helping thousands of people you call him a crook. What a shame you BIMBOS you were probably all cheating SOBS and you got canned and now the program i scam. You are all sick puppies. I am thru wasting my time with you losers and i suggest all of the p2p members to stop talking to these MORONS let them think whatever they want. p2p is going nowhere IT'S HERE TO STAY you losers!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There you go you losers saying stupid stuff! If you had any brains you would figure out that MCF is not down and that they are reporting payments for the 9th but i won't tell you how to open MCF. That's all you losers know how to say that it's a scam, that it's going down And the great man that Nick is and helping thousands of people you call him a crook. What a shame you BIMBOS you were probably all cheating SOBS and you got canned and now the program i scam. You are all sick puppies. I am thru wasting my time with you losers and i suggest all of the p2p members to stop talking to these MORONS let them think whatever they want. p2p is going nowhere IT'S HERE TO STAY you losers!

Quiz:

How many days is the 9th to the 23rd? (You can use your toes to count too if you need to.)

How many days over Nick's 10-15 days terms for payment is that?

Why is the lag in payments increasing with every day that passes?


(Hint: P2P no longer has enough new money coming into this Ponzi scam to pay what's due.)

For the sake of Clarity

How many days is the 9th to the 23rd?

9th JUNE-23th JULY

At this rate, P2P will be around a few more months. Paying June out! Assuming the money is there to do it of course.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For the sake of Clarity

9th JUNE-23th JULY

At this rate, P2P will be around a few more months. Paying June out! Assuming the money is there to do it of course.

Correct. Good catch.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hey aholes guess what sorry to disappoint all you losers p2p is paying the 9th now and will continue to pay in the future. All you idiots can hope for that your wish would comes thru but guess what it ain't going to happen. So quit your BULL **** false lying prognosis and move on. p2p is here to stay and pay well in spite of what you losers hope will happen. Get a life and quit trying to bring a good program down.

Paying the 9th of JUNE.Firstly you cannot know how long P2P will last. Unless of course you are the company accountant.Are you new to HYIP's,have you never seen one collapse before? Slow payments are a red flag when there is no valid reason.

Nothing to support your claims at all.Remember what they say about PAST performance.......

Well I do not need to call names nor do I need to put anyone down. I cannot believe that a bunch of adults are name calling and putting others down like the sad presidents of today.

I know this for certain, that if a couple of folks want to do something nice to help others achieve a comfortable way of living (financially), then let them do it! It is not sad to make a great return on your investment, and maybe you wouldn't have to slave for the man any more, I think that it is extremely nice that they are doing this.

If I was rich and was able to set something like P-2-P up and could actually make it work even with website down times, I would do this in a sec for people that are generous and have a positive attitude and especially those that are GOD fearing.

I seriously do not understand why people feel the need to put others down, call names and criticize something without knowing all the facts. I am not saying that this program will never fail, I certainly hope it won't, I hope that it will be around forever. I just joined in May; I did invest more than the average person.

I really hope that this system is not set up in a way that the new folks coming in pay the older ones that are getting ready to cash out. I do not care what they are using our money for, I kinda hope it is to better other people's lives.

If you love to work, then go to work everyday, that is great. I love to help folks stay at home and spend more quality time with their families since families today, are not as strong as they used to be like in the 60' and 70's. I just like to see people happy and trying their hardest to get along with one another.

With that being said, if this program ever does fail, (which I do not ever see happening with the main creator being the owner of Ikea) then instead of spamming the world with "I told you so's" just let it be a learning experience for the rest of us. And if in 10 years this is still around and going strong, I hope that those of us that are in this program are really able to help assist others with our own funds in some way to those that aren't in it.

Good day to everyone.

JC

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well I do not need to call names nor do I need to put anyone down. I cannot believe that a bunch of adults are name calling and putting others down like the sad presidents of today.

I know this for certain, that if a couple of folks want to do something nice to help others achieve a comfortable way of living (financially), then let them do it! It is not sad to make a great return on your investment, and maybe you wouldn't have to slave for the man any more, I think that it is extremely nice that they are doing this.

If I was rich and was able to set something like P-2-P up and could actually make it work even with website down times, I would do this in a sec for people that are generous and have a positive attitude and especially those that are GOD fearing.

I seriously do not understand why people feel the need to put others down, call names and criticize something without knowing all the facts. I am not saying that this program will never fail, I certainly hope it won't, I hope that it will be around forever. I just joined in May; I did invest more than the average person.

I really hope that this system is not set up in a way that the new folks coming in pay the older ones that are getting ready to cash out. I do not care what they are using our money for, I kinda hope it is to better other people's lives.

If you love to work, then go to work everyday, that is great. I love to help folks stay at home and spend more quality time with their families since families today, are not as strong as they used to be like in the 60' and 70's. I just like to see people happy and trying their hardest to get along with one another.

With that being said, if this program ever does fail, (which I do not ever see happening with the main creator being the owner of Ikea) then instead of spamming the world with "I told you so's" just let it be a learning experience for the rest of us. And if in 10 years this is still around and going strong, I hope that those of us that are in this program are really able to help assist others with our own funds in some way to those that aren't in it.

Good day to everyone.

JC

Bingo! you have stated it so well. thank you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well I do not need to call names nor do I need to put anyone down. I cannot believe that a bunch of adults are name calling and putting others down like the sad presidents of today.

I know this for certain, that if a couple of folks want to do something nice to help others achieve a comfortable way of living (financially), then let them do it! It is not sad to make a great return on your investment, and maybe you wouldn't have to slave for the man any more, I think that it is extremely nice that they are doing this.

If I was rich and was able to set something like P-2-P up and could actually make it work even with website down times, I would do this in a sec for people that are generous and have a positive attitude and especially those that are GOD fearing.

I seriously do not understand why people feel the need to put others down, call names and criticize something without knowing all the facts. I am not saying that this program will never fail, I certainly hope it won't, I hope that it will be around forever. I just joined in May; I did invest more than the average person.

I really hope that this system is not set up in a way that the new folks coming in pay the older ones that are getting ready to cash out. I do not care what they are using our money for, I kinda hope it is to better other people's lives.

If you love to work, then go to work everyday, that is great. I love to help folks stay at home and spend more quality time with their families since families today, are not as strong as they used to be like in the 60' and 70's. I just like to see people happy and trying their hardest to get along with one another.

With that being said, if this program ever does fail, (which I do not ever see happening with the main creator being the owner of Ikea) then instead of spamming the world with "I told you so's" just let it be a learning experience for the rest of us. And if in 10 years this is still around and going strong, I hope that those of us that are in this program are really able to help assist others with our own funds in some way to those that aren't in it.

Good day to everyone.

JC

"sad presidents" ??? OMG now that's funny. LOL!

The only "sad presidents" here are on the dollars that are stolen from people that are going into Nick and Kent's pockets from this scam.

This has to a shill post. Nobody could actually be that naive. Kent? Is that you? LMAO.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Arrests are made for fraud. This is not about the stock market or legit activities!!

Understood. Arrests are ALSO made for false accusations. Provide the proof and then we can talk about "fraud".