Pathway-2-Prosperity - Pathway-2-Poverty - Pathway-2-Ponzi

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That's all you got to say from all the facts that were just presented to you and you are either too stupid or i don't know what to call it.

Well whatever you call it, he won't be able to spell it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Nope. Not once, not ever. Smarter than that.

You don't need absolute proof even in court. Only the preponderance of evidence and and the ability to make common sense judgements. Despite what some of the operators and cheerleaders might lead you to believe, there is no obligation to give an online investment scheme the benefit of the doubt.

No hostility towards people with hopes and dreams. In fact quite the opposite. Those who run these scams prey on hope and dreams and it's the people who believe the con that will lose both as well as their money. If you understand that it's a scam in which more will lose than will win and you're willing to profit from those same people with hopes and dreams that you mention, then go right ahead. Don't pretend that it's anything other than that though.

One thing you forgot to mention just speculations this is not a scam.
When are you going to learn. Everybody that didn't try to cheat is making money and you're not

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You don't know what you're talking about just shooting off your stupid mouth. Just wondering are you one of the cheaters so you would say anything to hurt the program? Guess what stop trying it isn't working for you I assure you

Nick was to be caught up over the weekend. It's now Wednesday and he's even farther behind. What's not working is P2P.

Everyone's a naysayer that speaks the truth????????

Fact is fact, payments are behind and getting further delayed each day.

New tricks by Nick and crew.......IP ranges are being blocked in an attempt to reduce withdrawl requests. People wake up!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

New tricks by Nick and crew.......IP ranges are being blocked in an attempt to reduce withdrawl requests. People wake up!!

Why not limit withdrawals to one per month and $500 minimum? To easy?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Everyone's a naysayer that speaks the truth????????

Fact is fact, payments are behind and getting further delayed each day.

Hey aholes guess what sorry to disappoint all you losers p2p is paying the 9th now and will continue to pay in the future. All you idiots can hope for that your wish would comes thru but guess what it ain't going to happen. So quit your BULL **** false lying prognosis and move on. p2p is here to stay and pay well in spite of what you losers hope will happen. Get a life and quit trying to bring a good program down.

Stop with the lies!!! P2P is over 40 day behind in payouts...............no catching up in sight. You are still running al over the net telling the same lie hoping new members will bring in fresh money!! Remember they are all reading the truth posted on other forums..............It's good My CashScam Forum is down!!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hey aholes guess what sorry to disappoint all you losers p2p is paying the 9th now and will continue to pay in the future. All you idiots can hope for that your wish would comes thru but guess what it ain't going to happen. So quit your BULL **** false lying prognosis and move on. p2p is here to stay and pay well in spite of what you losers hope will happen. Get a life and quit trying to bring a good program down.

Another great post!! Do not put your money in this scam!!

I'm not sure how much progress has been made - MCF would seem to be down (no surprise - Kent has been pushing p-2-p so hard he'd have some tough questions to answer in there right now otherwise!) - which is my usual source of payments information, but last I saw June 8th was not yet complete although I'm expecting them to get there around now and make a start on June 9th before July is complete. This is based on how fast they have been paying of late combined with an assumption that as more people get worried by the lag in payments money in decreases further and the delays increase in a vicious cycle.

At some point things will collapse to the point where either 'Nick' doesn't have enough coming in to keep the servers up, or the margin is too low to be worth the hassle, there is simply not enough coming in to ever complete payments for a particular day of requests, or 'the authorities' move in and shut him down. The last of these becomes more likely the more people file complaints, which will be increasing as payments get later and later, albeit perhaps from a low or zero base considering the extremity of the 'cult-like' following that, for reasons I cannot fathom, p-2-p seems to have attracted. Consequently I think the first three (i.e. unpaid bills, not worth the trouble or never enough to complete payments for the next pending request day) are more likely to be the cause for 'the end' in this case.

Based on experience, general mathematical aptitude and a certain amount of intuition (probably no more than further, sub-conscious calculation resulting from qualitative rather than quantitative assessments of the nature of this 'program' and those associated with it) I have a strong feeling that June 9th, i.e. the day of requests either being paid out now or about to be paid, represents the point where these factors are in the balance, i.e. it is as likely that p-2-p will fail while this day is paying out than not. That is why I stated "My guess is that June 8th will probably be completed (about 60% likely), June 9th is less certain (50/50), then downhill from there (c. 40% chance June 10th will be completed, 30% for June 11th, etc.)".

This is not an exact science of course, which is why the probabilities drop off relatively slowly as the days pass. However, it is clearly a one-way street now, and with each day taking at least a week to pay out, and this period getting longer each time, it is clear that the probability of failure is increasing for each one, which is why 60% for June 8th being completed reduces to 50% for June 9th, down to c. 40% for June 10th, 30% for June 11th, etc.; if we do get past June 9th then I expect it will take most, if not all of August to complete payments from the next two days with the probability of failure from any, or a combination of the four factors I referred to above increasing by the day, at a rate to cause the dropping off of chance of payment completed I have indicated.

Post that things get less predictable, but the general trend will continue. Assuming 'Nick' continues what appears to be his current modus operandi of attempting to complete one day's requested payments before starting the next, then we'll see a tailing off of completion probabilities as we move towards the fall, when I expect, in the unlikely event that this is still running, we'll be down to about 10% for June 15th as I stated next: "If they get to June 15th I will be surprised; it's not impossible just unlikely (c. 10% chance or so), and anything much past that is less likely still". Around this time, based on current rates of slowing, we'd be looking at of the order a month to gather enough funds to complete just one more day's worth of requests, causing all but the pathologically hypnotised to see the light and drop out.

This is why, even if we do get that far (i.e. mid June request payouts), which I am saying is very unlikely (c. 10%), probabilities of each day's requests being completed will continue to tail off rapidly. We'd be lost in the depths of winter before another week of payment requests could be completed, when addition factors come into play, not the least of which is the holiday season observed by the great majority of p-2-p's customer base (nearly exclusively North American looking at the Alexa stats), which is the reasoning behind my final sentence: "After about June 22nd the probability drops to around 1%, and the probabilities past that are as close to zero as makes no difference". Things are so uncertain past this point that I do not consider it meaningful to assess further probabilities, but I posit that, in any case, for most here anything with a probability of success less than one-in-a-hundred has long ago ceased to resemble an 'investment' and can therefore be ignored.

Well, for those that have read this far, most of whom will almost certainly have received far more detail than they could ever have wanted, please bear in mind that Finix asked for "the exact basis for the predictions and calculations posted here by some members" (my emphasis), and I have attempted to give that. I am a mathematician by education, a computer scientist by occupation, and an amateur lawyer through repeated involvement in litigation, so I do tend to have a somewhat more 'precise' sense of words such as 'exact' than many are used to. However, I do tend to find that, in nearly all aspects of life, the little extra time required to perform analysis at the finer level of granularity required to maintain this level of detailed foresight is a very good investment indeed.

In summary, I hope this has provided some insight into my methods, and for those still confused about what I am saying, let me put it into three sentences: Pathway-2-prosperity is a 'spent' Ponzi scheme towards the end of its lifecycle. It will most likely stop paying out altogether before payments requested up until mid June have been completed, and certainly before all payments requested up until the end of June have been made. The website may still be up, but payments are trickling out so slowly that, to all intents and purposes the program is dead already, and very few 'investors', if any, will receive payments from this point on.

Again, commiserations to all those who have lost money here.



PS Consider suing whoever referred you into the program, or the likes of Kent Black if you saw one of his many newscasts over at 24surfmonitor (also down at the time of posting!) encouraging people to 'invest' in p-2-p, which may be more likely to succeed than simply filing a claim against p-2-p and 'Nick' alone, both of which are very unlikely to be straight-forward to track down if past history in this arena are anything to go by. Consider getting a group of you together to reduce your legal costs as individuals, and good luck!

This scam wont last much longer for certain. People that post otherwise are simply pissed off because they are worried about getting their money out but its too late now. LOL. Dont say you were not told so but greed got in your way.

Nickolas Smirnow is a crook and so are his associates. I hope they all rot in prison someday.