Pathway-2-Prosperity - Pathway-2-Poverty - Pathway-2-Ponzi

[lizwestoz]

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[lizwestoz]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You haven't invested so you can't get into the private forum, you must go to the home page click on contact us sign up for support and put in a support ticket asking for your refund it's that simple! That's if you are a real member! Also you can leave your user name and I will pass it on to a support MOD for you. Your choice!

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Originally Posted by lizwestoz

Those who seek truth will find the answers.

There is a secret to all this, its called faith! If you understand the true meaning of the word faith, you will understand how all things are possible.

If you understand how all things are possible, then you will believe, and once you truly believe, all you have to do is ask and you will receive.

Patience is the key to success of any kind on this planet.

No matter whom you are or what you do for a living, all you need is a little faith.

LOL. Tell it to the losers who had faith in every other dumb scam that ended up taking their money.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

HELLO! You think this is the first time this line of reasoning has been used?

Here's how it goes...

- You ask the same dumb question from the standard list that cheerleaders always do in attempt to prove that _______ isn't a Ponzi.

- I give you the factual answer that you don't want to hear.

- You say "prove it."

- I give you the factual answer that you don't want to hear again.

- You say "that's not proof!"

- I point you directly to the source where you can find the factual answer that you don't want to hear.

- You ignore it and change the subject to go off onto some other tangent.

So I just saved us both a few steps. There are plenty of other examples of Ponzis that have lasted longer than P2P which serves to discredit the original
thesis that it couldn't be a Ponzi on that basis.

Listen, all I see is an individual posting that for some unknown motive has gained a superhero complex I a mission to save the world from Ponzis. I see on the other hand those that actually are involved in P-2-P, use their time posting here while they await their payouts. Strange mix of people. You can't definitely state P-2-P will end anytime soon, nor can we that are in it say if it's going to end. So, it's really a moot issue if and until P-2-P folds.

If this is your high, your Internet Crack! Have at it, but please stop pretending you are saving the world. Take the cape off, and stop being so dogmatic regarding P-2-P. Sometimes, it's good to admit to yourself that somethings are just in the realms of the unknown!

So if your not a LOSER then what are you doing here -- ??

I know you wanted to do research on ponzi scams right -- since we are in the hyip scams section -- you must look for these so you can share your opinion --

Did anyone ask for your OPINION -- there likes *******s everyone has one --
LOL

but do go on -- this is entertaining --

LOL !!!!!

[lizwestoz]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

LOL. Tell it to the losers who had faith in every other dumb scam that ended up taking their money.

Fair enough statement!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Listen, all I see is an individual posting that for some unknown motive has gained a superhero complex I a mission to save the world from Ponzis. I see on the other hand those that actually are involved in P-2-P, use their time posting here while they await their payouts. Strange mix of people. You can't definitely state P-2-P will end anytime soon, nor can we that are in it say if it's going to end. So, it's really a moot issue if and until P-2-P folds.

If this is your high, your Internet Crack! Have at it, but please stop pretending you are saving the world. Take the cape off, and stop being so dogmatic regarding P-2-P. Sometimes, it's good to admit to yourself that somethings are just in the realms of the unknown!

Just as I said, change the subject and off on some other tangent. LMAO

Apparently you're having problems keeping up with who's who here. I'm not trying to save the world, I just answered MRMIKE42's question. You or someone else pressed the issue asking for "proof." I gave a realistic response based on how this same discussion always goes.

Sorry, after literally thousands of these programs that all follow the same pattern there's really very little that's unknown. That includes the arguments and responses on both sides, the ineviable demise of the program, the disappearance of the cheerleaders along with it, and the movement of most of the same players on to another new program to start the cycle again (Just for kicks you should ask Chris and Gary about Bob Krimm and Tri-West some time on the forum. It's really a funny story. LOL).

If someone wants to put money into P2P, be my guest. I'd say that it's a very poor bet at this point given how these deals typically go and, in contrast to the longevity theory above, I'd tend to look at the age of P2P to be even more of a reason not to get in now. The odds aren't on your side. But it's your money.

[MRMIKE42]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just as I said, change the subject and off on some other tangent. LMAO

Apparently you're having problems keeping up with who's who here. I'm not trying to save the world, I just answered MRMIKE42's question. You or someone else pressed the issue asking for "proof." I gave a realistic response based on how this same discussion always goes.

Sorry, after literally thousands of these programs that all follow the same pattern there's really very little that's unknown. That includes the arguments and responses on both sides, the ineviable demise of the program, the disappearance of the cheerleaders along with it, and the movement of most of the same players on to another new program to start the cycle again (Just for kicks you should ask Chris and Gary about Bob Krimm and Tri-West some time on the forum. It's really a funny story. LOL).

If someone wants to put money into P2P, be my guest. I'd say that it's a very poor bet at this point given how these deals typically go and, in contrast to the longevity theory above, I'd tend to look at the age of P2P to be even more of a reason not to get in now. The odds aren't on your side. But it's your money.

All this bluster and no luster. I notice you had no answer for my post about the most basic rules of a Ponzi scheme and how P2P doesn't follow them. Talk about changing the subject!

Thousands of programs that follow the same pattern? Which pattern is this? Is it the one where none of the most basic Ponzi rules apply, like the P2P pattern? There are thousands of those? Really? Thousands?

I wish to thank you, EZ TARGET, on behalf of all us P2P suckers collecting more every week than we invested initially, like myself. We are so grateful we have your blessing and that you recognize it's our money. It is so comforting to know you're giving us permission to do with our money as we wish. Your benevolence is as unmeasurable as our gratitude.

And just for the record. Faith has nothing to do with my being a member. I'd rather go by evidence. I'm in it because of the experience of others who came before me and then my own experience of investing and receiving many thousands more than I invested. I have 8-60 day plans running, each spaced to complete one week apart, each paying more per week than my initial investment just a few months ago. That does not make me a sucker. That makes EZ TARGET a sucker, at least for now. (And yes, I'm getting paid every week, though several weeks late.) You cannot be a sucker unless you invest and lose your money. So far, I've not found the name of one P2P member who's lost their money. EZ TARGET's not been able to supply just one! His best counter punch is that P2P is behind in making payouts. That's true. It's also true that they're making payouts! Having said that, you need to know I am also a realist. ANY investment can be a risk and can result in a loss. Ask millions of homeowners in the US.

Do your homework like I did. I checked hundreds of posts on My Cash Forum and elsewhere and had I found just one P2P member who claimed to have lost money as a member and could back it up, I'd have taken a very different look. (There were one or two but when I asked them for their P2P username so I could investigate it, they suddenly changed their story.) When anyone asks me about P2P or anything else, I tell them to invest only what they can afford to lose and to take their initial seed money out as soon as they can. That way they're using the entities' money, not their own. That's what I did, that's what I suggest everyone do. So far it's worked for me and that's all I can go by. I'm also quite clear that there are no guarantees in life. Govern yourself accordingly.

EZ TARGET is right about there being many thousands of ways to invest and lose money on the internet. So far, P2P is not one of them and does NOT follow the pattern of those thousands as far as I can determine. Again, check my post about the basic rules of a Ponzi scheme and how P2P operates against those rules. Then decide for yourself.

If p2p was not a ponzi they could and would close the doors totally to new members. They would also pay on time and we would not be having this conversation. Its common sense. Nobody even knows if Nick Smirnow is a real person. Where is the facts on this Russian scammer? Is this his real name and where does he really live? Anybody though of hiring a PI to find out for sure?

This scam is a terrible joke to the experienced hyip player. Its actually quite funny to be honest that people honestly think this is real. Its just another run of the mill scam and the late payouts prove it. There is no registration and they are selling illegal securities. I hope they get busted and go to jail.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If p2p was not a ponzi they could and would close the doors totally to new members. They would also pay on time and we would not be having this conversation. Its common sense. Nobody even knows if Nick Smirnow is a real person. Where is the facts on this Russian scammer? Is this his real name and where does he really live? Anybody though of hiring a PI to find out for sure?

Absolutely correct. However they badly need fresh money, so the doors stay open. Those claiming to have met and spoken with him are no doubt lying. They are the top pimps as usual and have a vested interest in keeping things alive.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This scam is a terrible joke to the experienced hyip player. Its actually quite funny to be honest that people honestly think this is real. Its just another run of the mill scam and the late payouts prove it. There is no registration and they are selling illegal securities. I hope they get busted and go to jail.

Fortunately all contact details are known of the top pimps, so when it crashes (which it will) then all contact details will be turn over to authorities by Eagle Research Associates.