International law and world class action lawsuit against the Roman Catholic Church

[HealSurvivors]

What courts do we file in for International Law? Read Below on more questions and structure we know is needed thus far:

References of who this is coming from can be found at these websites:





Groups who may help organize a world class action lawsuit are snapnetwork.org and bishopsaccountability.org and more. We are survivors of sexual abuse within the Catholic church and doing below what we are attempting to structure would not only stop sexual abuse within the Catholic church, but also significantly stop pedophiles in the secular world because the Vatican and it's Diocese all over the US have blocked laws from being passed and manipulated the court system to their illegal favor..... so coordination a world class lawsuit in International Law and US Law is needed to stop pedophiles and allow laws to be more readily and easily passed for zero tolerance.

How can lawyers worldwide be collaborated? Can you send me information on World courts processes and laws regarding sexual abuse? (I already have that information for the US Federal Court system.) How do we go about filing in the right court systems in the US and world courts for worldwide class action lawsuit? (One area might be the chapter 11 US Federal Courts due to Diocese falsely filing bankruptcies... other areas in US Federal courts might be both civil and criminal) Will this information below be sufficient for a worldwide class action lawsuit?

A worldwide class action lawsuit against the Roman Catholic Church will need to approximate a dual purpose in both the World Courts and the US Federal Court system at the same time unable to follow the same timeframe of course. Needed will be expert lawyers across the World and the US, advocate groups, parishioners of worldwide Diocese of parishes, volunteers, and strategic planning of listing the lawsuit parameters as thus:

All statutes of sexual abuse in the US Federal system apply to proven cases across the United States that won against all Diocese and grouped together they become part of the argument for the worldwide class action lawsuit. There are over 14,000 cases against all Diocese in the United States and as evidence of argument combined with survivors not heard or pushed away by Diocese is additional argument of proof. Roman Catholic Church documents sourcing agenda of moving pedophile bishops, priests, and lay persons to different Diocese around the US and World is evidence. History of bishops, priests, and lay people who were accused at multiple parishes and Diocese and the actions of moving them by the hierarchy is further evidence to be applied. Staggering years of denial and evading the US courts and survivors of sexual abuse should be added. Methods and paperwork of Diocese methods to intimidate victims, deny, and evade the sexual abuse charges is another topic. The evidence of muzzling the media in TV and newspapers is another... Testimony of survivors and their families proving the devastation is key argument material. More can be decided as evidence necessary....

We want the lawsuit to be structured as thus:
3 objectives: Worldwide initiative / Education and Advocacy / How to begin healing sexual abuse. The WORLDWIDE INITIATIVE in explanation is the biggest challenge as a class action lawsuit worldwide objective against the Roman Catholic Church in Vatican City from the Pope to Cardinals and Bishops down to the 13 Papalcies that govern by branches much like the United States government down to covering all Diocese worldwide and parishes under those diocese. The third papalcy in Vatican city of the 13 is in charge of World Assets of all diocese and because of the sexual abuse cases they have falsely claimed bankruptcy under Diocese' especially in the United States and closed parishes because of lawsuits and moving pedophiles worldwide to other diocese and parishes hiding them causing other children to be in danger. Every diocese and parish is like an embassy so laws are unable to hold them accountable so we need to go to US federal court and world courts to pin them down and make sure all parishes stay open and accountability is done and all cases go under diocese and parishes for survivors are covered under parishes with parishioners help. All assets of the Roman Catholic church will be seized and be under all Diocese worldwide with parishioner board supervisions placing all assets above Diocese structure in worldwide account publicly seen by all diocese and all assets used from this seized assets of the hierarchy will have accountability measures in report for Diocese world wide uses.... A win win for the church and survivors and protecting children keeping the church intact yet cleaning it up. New idea with advocacy and probably one of the biggest challenges this world will face.

Aren't there plenty of suits already?

[Friend In Court]

The problem is being addressed by individual suits against the Church by the victims, worldwide. In the U.S., Canada, Ireland -- all over the world. A class action suit will not accomplish as much as the individual suits where the Church has paid and will continue to pay out tens of millions to the victims.

The Church is paying in loss of membership as parishioners leave the Church in droves.

Another lawsuit is not needed. The individual suits are adequate as well as criminal prosecutions against not only the perpetrator priests, but now Church officials who knew, and then transferred the offenders to other parishes to prey on more children there.

[HealSurvivors]

Originally Posted by Unregistered Aren't there plenty of suits already?

Yes, there are plenty of suits, yet there are many suits turned away due to statute of limitations and i am one of those suits. As I have went to meetings regarding the issue and kindly placed my case to the Saint Louis Archdiocese in 2008 they claimed it's not their responsibility... yet it is. I have heard stories (true stories) of vicitms being turned away like me, cases being appealed over and over again to tire out victims, church officials being moved to avoid lawsuits to other countries even to Vatican City... in my case the Archbishop of Saint Louis was moved to Vatican City to avoid prosecution or a case as well as the child board assigned by the diocese splitting up where a priest was promoted to be Archbishop of Tennessee... how does that help me and other victims? So, no there are not enough of the right cases like a world class action lawsuit.... kindly see the protection of children worldwide as a responsibility. Lack of action is a choice and the loss of human kind's progress.

[HealSurvivors]

Response by Friend in Court....

Originally Posted by Friend In Court The problem is being addressed by individual suits against the Church by the victims, worldwide. In the U.S., Canada, Ireland -- all over the world. A class action suit will not accomplish as much as the individual suits where the Church has paid and will continue to pay out tens of millions to the victims. The Church is paying in loss of membership as parishioners leave the Church in droves. Another lawsuit is not needed. The individual suits are adequate as well as criminal prosecutions against not only the perpetrator priests, but now Church officials who knew, and then transferred the offenders to other parishes to prey on more children there.

response below by Heal Survivors http://healingsexualabuse.wordpress.com/

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[HealSurvivors]

The problem being addressed by the individual suits is progress, yet money does not make the problem go away for the individual nor the structure of the church. As a result the Vatican out of the 3rd papalcy of the 13 papalcies are closing parishes in diocese to cover costs and at the same time falsely claiming chapter 11 bankruptcies preserving the hierarchy assets running from the duties to address the sexual abuses. I have heard and know most cases pay out 10,000 up to 50,000 while the church pays millions to achieve such a settlement and very few cases release millions of dollars like less than 1% of cases. Your right the membership is leaving in droves.... wouldn't it be better for a class action lawsuit structured in a way that membership doesn't leave in droves and individual parishes help victims much like they help the poor and sick? Something else is needed as individual lawsuits are not stopping them from moving officials to other countries like in my case where the archbishop of saint louis was moved to Vatican City to be one of eight canon lawyers in the world and the priest hearing my case on the diocese child board of protection was promoted to archbishop of tennessee after i was told my case is not their responsibility... WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS NO NEED FOR A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT... YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT KNOW THE FACTS OF THE WHOLE SITUATION WORLDWIDE... thank you for your comments as it puts into perspective of what some people know and don't know. Bless you for responding and may you see that no action is a choice of allowing such atrocities... thank God there are individual cases as a start to stop the epidimic.