Is freedom of speech a ticket to use profane and vulgar language?

[dlima]

Is profanity and vulgar language covered under freedom of speech?

Example; do individuals on a sidewalk in front of my home or in a city park in front of my home have the right to curse repeatedly in such a manner that I can hear them while I am in my yard or in side my house?

I am a resident in the City of Syracuse, NY which is in the county of Onondaga.

The commissioner of city parks has told me to call 911 and ask the 911 operator to dispatch an officer.

When ever I do call 911 they often want to give me a civic lesson on the freedom of speech.

Respectfully,

David Lima

No it is not protected. They can be fined or even arrested.

And local cities may have even stricter rules -- as we do here in TN.

Originally Posted by dlima Is profanity and vulgar language covered under freedom of speech? Example; do individuals on a sidewalk in front of my home or in a city park in front of my home have the right to curse repeatedly in such a manner that I can hear them while I am in my yard or in side my house? I am a resident in the City of Syracuse, NY which is in the county of Onondaga. The commissioner of city parks has told me to call 911 and ask the 911 operator to dispatch an officer. When ever I do call 911 they often want to give me a civic lesson on the freedom of speech. Respectfully, David Lima

hey, STFU you idiot, you opted to live there, did'nt you. Cause you ended up w/ a raise from work, don't mean shyte. get used to it.

[Postman]

Actually,

It depends on if it offends PUBLIC SENSIBILITIES, however since you are one, you need some Public.

[YoshiStar]

Originally Posted by Postman Actually, It depends on if it offends PUBLIC SENSIBILITIES, however since you are one, you need some Public.

Correct, actualy freedom of speech should be coved as their is no such thing as vulgar terms, but people

Like the topic poster take how we talk (which differs in the society you grow up in) offensively whether it be directed to them or not.

I can swear realistically all I want as long as I'm not targeting/directing someone who it would offend actually,

Topic poster, what you would be doing is illegal, as it is called ease dropping.
Whether I be in public unless I start cursing towards you, you have no legal right nor action over me.

If I'm talking about marijuana and swearing as I talk about it, to my friend beside me, and you try to call the police because I was swearing. Or talking about a illegal drug.
I could actually report you from ease dropping.


Straight from this site.
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a - Freedom of speech is the concept of being able to speak freely without censorship."

Originally Posted by YoshiStar Correct, actualy freedom of speech should be coved as their is no such thing as vulgar terms, but people Like the topic poster take how we talk (which differs in the society you grow up in) offensively whether it be directed to them or not. I can swear realistically all I want as long as I'm not targeting/directing someone who it would offend actually, Topic poster, what you would be doing is illegal, as it is called ease dropping. Whether I be in public unless I start cursing towards you, you have no legal right nor action over me. If I'm talking about marijuana and swearing as I talk about it, to my friend beside me, and you try to call the police because I was swearing. Or talking about a illegal drug. I could actually report you from ease dropping. Straight from this site. " a - Freedom of speech is the concept of being able to speak freely without censorship."

However, you could be cited by the grammar police for being a moron. It's eavesdropping, and overhearing someone yelling in public is certainly NOT eavesdropping. Wow.

Originally Posted by Unregistered However, you could be cited by the grammar police for being a moron. It's eavesdropping, and overhearing someone yelling in public is certainly NOT eavesdropping. Wow.

Your right if someone is yelling than its not eaves dropping. but also if someone is yelling things you might find offensive or disturbing even if its not at you .you can still do something about it if you tell them its upsetting you and they and they tell you to F off than that is illegal and they can be cited for that for harassment. just dont be a bcith and tell them your calling the cops and freak out casue they can probably do something back. if al else fails tell them you were hurting your ears or traumatized by there offensive and disturbing language and lie if you really want to do something of course now a days with a good enough lawyer with no standards you can sue for just about anything even considerd offensive.

P.s this also depends on your community standards.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Your right if someone is yelling than its not eaves dropping. but also if someone is yelling things you might find offensive or disturbing even if its not at you .you can still do something about it if you tell them its upsetting you and they and they tell you to F off than that is illegal and they can be cited for that for harassment. just dont be a bcith and tell them your calling the cops and freak out casue they can probably do something back. if al else fails tell them you were hurting your ears or traumatized by there offensive and disturbing language and lie if you really want to do something of course now a days with a good enough lawyer with no standards you can sue for just about anything even considerd offensive. P.s this also depends on your community standards.

Cited for harassment? YOU'RE the one harassing THEM..

They are minding their business, you go over there to tell them to stop swearing, they tell you to F off, rightfully so...

I see no harassment there, if you voluntarily stand their, taking the abuse and they are not FOLLOWING you, how is that HARASSMENT?

Also, your whole argument hinges on the assumption you have the right not to be offended, get off your mommy's tit , I assume you're a big person now.

The dispatcher was right for giving you a civics lesson

[QUOTE=Unregistered;175734]Cited for harassment? YOU'RE the one harassing THEM..

They are minding their business, you go over there to tell them to stop swearing, they tell you to F off, rightfully so...

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Now I have only had to do this 2-3 times when the un-ruley kids of neighbors found it made them feel "grown up" to be rude and inconsiderate of those around them. But I kept this on hand in case someone asked why I have a right to Peace and Quiet.

The following is an example of a state statute dealing with disturbing the peace:

"Elements of Disturbing the Peace: It shall be unlawful for any person to:

1. Make, continue, maintain or cause to be made or continued any excessive, unnecessary, unreasonable or unusually loud noise or any noise in such manner as to annoy, offend, disturb, injure or endanger the comfort, repose, health, peace or safety of any reasonable person of normal auditory sensitivity residing in the area.
2. Use, operate or permit the use or operation of any electronic device, radio receiving set, television, musical instrument, phonograph or other machine or device for the producing or reproducing of sound in such manner as to disturb the peace, quiet and comfort of any reasonable person of normal auditory sensitivity inhabiting the area.
3. Congregate because of, participate in or be in any party or gathering of people from which sound emanates of a sufficient volume so as to disturb the peace, quiet or repose of any reasonable person of normal auditory sensitivity residing in any residential area. No person shall visit or remain within any residential dwelling unit wherein such party or gathering is taking place except persons who have gone there for the sole purpose of abating said disturbance. A police officer may order all persons present in any group or gathering from the dwelling unit to immediately disperse in lieu of being charged under this Section."

So, if I am in my garden across the street and can clearly hear loud and foul conversation from your driveway or worse from within the confines of a park where the sounds of play should drown it out it IS considered Disturbing the Peace. And in more than a few cases the 911 Operator who holds themselves high enough to berate and or lecture a complainant should be themselves corrected and possibly suspended. It is not your job to lecture a caller who had been instructed to call when the offense happens. It is your job to determine if a unit should be dispatched now or when one is free. not it is not life threatening but we ALL have a right to live in a safe and peaceful environment. Remember we are supposed to be civilized. We no longer cut fingers off for stealing or tongues out for telling lies but maybe we should go back to a smack on the mouth when our kids are cursing and disrespecting others!