California parents "do not have a constitutional right" to home-school their children

[angel1964]

Unregistered, This is so true. Controlling is not the word for the parent who home schools. I am living it. The child is so socially inept it is not funny. He has been brainwashed to lie and keep secrets and he thinks that if everyone is not like him and his mother they are all bad. All teenagers are bad, all adults who dont like his mother are bad etc....He absolutely think the world revolves around him and his mommy. The mother is so controlling of this child that when she was working as a bar tender which was last year and the child is 11 she would come home from work at 5.00 in the morning, wake him up from where ever he was sleeping and have him sleep with her. and he still sleeps with her. HE really has no friends,he doesnt go out and play, he just learned how to ride a 2 wheel bike, has terrible writing skills and basically has some levels of intelligence as a 7 year old. He is very good as being kept up on adult issues. He lies to get attention but in the long run he ends up hurting people. The sad thing is is that his contolling mother condones this in him. The parent thinks that 2 hours a night is schooling. She watches are you smarter than a 5th grader and thats how she teaches him. And when this child does end up having to go to school such as high school he is going to be lost and all the kids are going to know how different he is. He cant handle social situations unless mommy is there to watch over him. And that is a sickness with these parents. They are lazy. He gets home schooled when ever she feels like. 9-10 at night. That is not structure. That is selfish. TBYTE is the most ignorant, idiotic, stupid person I have ever dealt with. He thinks he gives good advice but he doesnt. He is a chess player so he thinks he is so smart.

I work with a man and a woman who were home schooled. Both act like their opinion is the only one that matters. Both ignore input from others. Both can't take constructive criticism and blame others for their mistakes... because mommy instilled in their fertile brain that they can't do any wrong. Both are "social retards", to quote another post.

SAT scores are not the end-all-be-all of education success.

I agree this should be outlawed. The sooner the better!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I work with a man and a woman who were home schooled. Both act like their opinion is the only one that matters. Both ignore input from others. Both can't take constructive criticism and blame others for their mistakes... because mommy instilled in their fertile brain that they can't do any wrong. Both are "social retards", to quote another post.

SAT scores are not the end-all-be-all of education success.

I agree this should be outlawed. The sooner the better!

That would be CHECKMATE on tbyte's azz! Real life results are what matters. I have fired 3 men who were home schooled. Total egomaniac morons!

[tbyte]

There are 300 million people in the United States. The fact that you know some people you do not like who were home schooled does not mean squat. I'm guessing they didn't like you either. I attended public schools, and I don't like you.
I have already given you a "real life" example of a child who is excelling under home schooling, so score a draw on that one.
I asked you folks, with the whole power of the internet at your fingertips, to cite some studies indicating that homeschooling is detrimental. You failed. So, far from me being checkmated, you have all just resigned.
Hell, you aren't even playing chess. I think maybe tic-tac-toe is closer to your level.

[PapaJohn]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't understand why a parent would want to do that to their child. I coach sports and see a lot of home schoolers. They are all much less socialized than kids who attend a school. It seems only control freaks insist on controlling every aspect of their child's life to such an extent. Make it illegal across the country!

Wow.. way to show your complete lack of knowledge on the subject.
Many kids who are home schooled do so based on their decision and not their parents. And as Tbyte has pointed out home schooled children are very well adjusted. Home schooling has nothing to do with whether a child is socialized or not. There are MANY mitigating factors involved in the socialization of children. I know many kids who are very much under socialized who are in conventional schools.. so does that mean I can conclude that conventional schools are causing it? Hey I even know a lot of kids who are abused by their parents in conventional schools... so then can I conclude that conventional schooling causes child abuse?

Our oldest son decided to home school so he could have more time with his son. Since he did so his grades have gone up tremendously and he has a great social life. Oh wait.. here's an interesting fact.... since our son started home schooling he stopped smoking pot.... so does that mean that conventional schooling makes kids smoke pot and home schooling makes them stop smoking pot?

[PapaJohn]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It most certainly IS a condemnation of home schooling! Home schooled kids tend to be more immature, selfish and ignorant of social skills. They tend to think the world revolves around them. Some are fine but, most are not. This is supported by many studies.

Hmmm.... I've done extensive research into home schooling, mainly because my oldest son decided to do it himself. I could find absolutely NO studies whatsoever that show a single thing you just claimed. However I found TONS of studies that prove the OPPOSITE of what you have claimed.

Let's have a look...

The Benefits of Homeschooling - Article - OmniNerd

HSLDA | Academic Statistics on Homeschooling

National Home Education Research Institute - NHERI Research

Yahoo! Canada Answers - What are the negative effects of homeschooling?

In Pursuit of Prov. 31: WARNING: The Effects of Homeschooling

and these are just a very few of many...Try going to google and using the key words "effects of homeschooling".

Now, in my son's case.... he just had his first mandatory board of education review test results come back. He is currently studying grade nine. His results showed he is functioning in reading, and writing, and math at a POST secondary level. Damn this frikin home schooling...

[tanja53]

Cant believe some people's language.

There are kids that do well in public schools.
There are kids that do better in private schools.

There are kids that do great in home schooling.

Everybody is different.
And need different kind of learning.

I did lousey in public school and did good in private school.

My grandson is going to be taught in the home.


What is good for one person doenst mean is good for another.

[PapaJohn]

Originally Posted by tanja53

Cant believe some people's language.

There are kids that do well in public schools.
There are kids that do better in private schools.

There are kids that do great in home schooling.

Everybody is different.
And need different kind of learning.

I did lousey in public school and did good in private school.

My grandson is going to be taught in the home.


What is good for one person doenst mean is good for another.

EXACTLY!!!!! Very well said.

My kids have done a bit of both and two prefer public school and two prefer the home school process.

And all are very active in other outside activities.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

My kids have done a bit of both and two prefer public school and two prefer the home school process.

And all are very active in other outside activities.

Home schooling your kids teaches them an upside down view of the world. They don't learn social skills very well. Why should they? Mommy is always there to solve their every problem! That is not how the world works. You do your kids a disservice home schooling them to satisfy your controlling needs. Period.