Check the China Trade Commission Fraud Black List BEFORE Doing Overseas Biz
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Well more evidence that China Trade Commission is a fraud and that they will resort to any of shenanigans to attack anyone who states that they are! Look at this post put up by China Trade Commission or someone acting on their behalf:
International Fraud Black List Well the profile is fake as is the confession. They have been accusing a "Mystery Guest" of hacking into their site: See: scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites and China Trade Commission Victim Of Cyber Smear Scam By Vengeful Hacker Fraud So now they have their confession. Slight problem though, they copied the icon but they got the name wrong! See: scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites Moreover, I wondered why China Chick and Fred the Fed and Scam Patrol all accused me of using multiple profiles and now I realize its because that's what he was doing. The reason there are 12 profiles defending China Trade Commission is because they are all China Trade Commission, the organization that is run by a convicted felon, deadbeat debtor, stock manipulator, fugitive from justice and a liar and also a vivid imagination! |
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My name is Kevin Tyler, the Operations Manager at the Beijing Office of the China Trade Commission and I have been duly-authorized by our board of directors and legal counsel to announce and clarify the following:
Within the last year we have succeeded in exposing more than 57 fraudulent ads at Alibaba, 29 ads at Craigslist, 16, ads at TradeKey and 12 ads at Kijiji which were involved in criminal activity ranging from 419 Nigerian Scams to phishing, and assorted other frauds. As a result many of those scammers had their IPs blacklisted and banned, and they surely lost a great deal of their income streams. Unfortunately, most of them will move to new locations, get new IPs and be up and running again within 30 days of being banned. One of the above fraudsters we exposed, has within the last month launched a malicious and vengeful smear campaign against the China Trade Commission from two locations within the U.S. (one in Vancouver Washington and the other near Lancaster, Pennsylvania). This party used a variety of tactics to defame and slander us publicly on-line including: * Slanderous comments at various on-line forums using various anonymous identities including "Mystery Guest", "Due Diligence", and "Interesting Observer". * Disabling our website for 3 days with hacking activity * Filing false abuse and spam reports to get 37 of our ads and links going back to 2008 deleted * Flooding us with over 5,000 spam emails daily for almost a week. * Using a VOIP auto dialer to repeatedly call our fraud hotline number every 75 seconds for a few days. * Attempted acquisition of encrypted membership database (failed due to security measures) * Uploading of pornographic and other unauthorized photos, including some taken from Facebook to our web site which were immediately reported to us and removed. * Making false copyright infringement claims that were dismissed as erroneous within 72 hours of his report being made. * Posting of fictitious announcements at various forums supposedly by the CTC which took us almost two weeks to get deleted. * Managed to delete or censor an official CTC rebuttal (similar to this one) at another fraud forum. * Attempted to link one of our directors Anthony S. DeMarco to an alleged criminal that has a similar name. These malicious attacks were all designed to smear and discredit our organization and we announced the smear attack with press release like these here: China Trade Commission Victim Of Cyber Smear Scam By Vengeful Hacker Fraud Although we now have a very good idea of who is behind this smear campaign thanks to a tip from an insider working for the scammer, (see below link), we are letting the authorities handle this matter as they have instructed us to do. scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites Fortunately, some of our former and present clients and associates in the U.S., Canada, and here in China have come to our defense at these links below. China Trade Commission Is Being Smeared Yet others who are not our clients, members, or associates, but who used our many free services over the past 15 years also came forward at Scam.com where the gossip, rumors, and lies mushroomed quickly. If one takes the time to scroll down this thread you can read for yourself the history of this fiasco: (Start with Post #27 and scroll down) List of Scam Websites Precisely because we are dealing with a skilled, devious, and malicious hacker, and because we do have strict confidentiality agreements we must and will be careful about what information we release about our operations on line. We also have other local considerations as well including the safety of our staff (two of whom were beaten in recent years, and another who had their car set on fire after we exposed some corrupt officials in China linked to a few frauds) Scam Patrol, Mr. Wilson, Fred The Fed, and few others mentioned some of these incidents and posted some pertinent links. You can read their accounts and understand why we in China must be very careful what we say. However we will say the following which does not endanger any of our clients,members, staff, nor jeopardize any of our 9 ongoing investigations: 1. The last complaint filed against the CTC was in 2006 and involved a travel agent we referred that overcharged a client by $229. The matter was amicably resolved within 48 hours. There are no current complaints nor litigation pending anywhere in the world against the China Trade Commission. The CTC has never been a defendant in any criminal or civil matter in any legal jurisdiction. 2. We are not a government entity and never claimed to be. We did however have extensive cooperation with various government agencies in the past when we were a non-profit organization in Hong Kong from 1996-2008. Although we still maintain an office and agents in Hong Kong, our main office relocated to Beijing in 2009. Because our offices have been severely vandalized 3 times since we moved to Beijing (as others have confirmed on line in their respective posts). We no longer publish our address nor all of telephone numbers. Our clients and members know how and where to find and call us, and the bad guys do not. This was a conscious decision made after the beating, vandalism incident, and after a wife of one of our investigators received a death threat. We take the personal safety of our staff very seriously. 3. We do not solicit the public by email or telephone - and never will. More than 60% of our business is generated from client referrals. We currently do work for more than a dozen private investigators, three banks, two universities (who need background checks on new foreign professors), some head-hunters, and over the years we have done due diligence, collections, or arbitration work for over 1,600 accredited investors and 34 public companies. Our membership is currently closed and due to our work load we are only taking on new work from existing clients at this time. We never advertised until the 2008 Olympics, and even there is was through some local upscale hotels in Beijing. 4. We have hosted 39 numerous free seminars and sponsored charity events in both Hong Kong and Beijing over the last 15 years like those listed here: Community The CTC was the first to bring Santa Claus to Chinese Children in 1998 and have done so ever since at various malls. Two years ago we started a "Calls from Santa" program and since 2005 we have been hosting annual free Magic Shows with Las Vegas magician Rob Rasner and others, English & Chinese Lessons, Birthday Parties, Gifted Child Evaluations, Childrens Day In The Park, for kids, etc. - all free of charge. For adults we provide free fraud alerts for visitors, foreign businessmen, and locals (China has a great many scams that target tourists and locals alike). See this sample: http://www.chinatradecommission.org/...ineseScams.pdf We also provide samples of our work like this sample of a due diligence report: http://www.chinatradecommission.org/...ort-Sample.pdf For clients and members we provide comprehensive fraud and scam blacklists like this: Black List For online anonymous hackers however, we have nothing to offer except an official investigation. 5. Our investigative work is confidential of course, but others have already documented some of our cases at these posts below, one of which was a pretty substantial case in China of an American who swindled more than $15 million USD from small business owners over a five year period before we exposed him with Scam Patrol International in 2009 and 2010. scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites 5. Yes, we did indeed switch our hosting to a U.S. server earlier this year to avoid the frequent blocking and hacking we experienced here in China, especially after we reported/exposed two vice mayors (of Beijing and Shenzen for corruption). Our legal counsel sent a letter containing the below excerpt to our members and clients which explain why, we will not jeopardize current investigations by revealing our old website address (which is still in use) as as a skilled hacker is now demanding: “I have represented the China Trade Commission in China since 2006 and will share a copy of the original 1996 Hong Kong registration with any legitimate and bonafide client of the CTC. The primary allegiance of the CTC is to its members and clients – not to anonymous and malicious people on the internet making demands for information. I have consulted with CTC management and advised them not to disclose the old .cn site which was operational from October of 2003 to July of 2011. After being continuously blocked and hacked for many years (Just like the problems Google encountered in China) the CTC management decided to host the site outside of China. The old site is well-known to existing members and clients, and we have also asked them not to reveal it publically as well since it is still being used in a CTC “Scam Baiting” operation. Those not familiar with the term should go to this link: Word Spy - scam baiting. I have twice tried unsuccessfully to communicate with the administrators of two forums which continue to slander the CTC, but they do not respond since they ultimately would have to identify themselves and be liable for a civil suit. I have since counseled management of the CTC to let the authorities investigate the recent hacking incident and get on with their business. Any registered CTC client or member who has questions, can contact me at AttyJosephWu@126.com and I will respond within 3-5 days if I can verify your identity on the CTC membership database.” 6. For the record, our Executive Director is Anthony S. DeMarco born in November of 1962 and who has no arrest record in any country, and who does not own property in Ohio, and who is not the the alleged criminal that the vengeful hacker is trying to link us to. Our Anthony DeMarco is properly identified in these 2010 press releases, and we will be absolutely certain not to omit his middle initial again. http://www.freepressindex.com/news-c...ide-21011.html http://www.freepressindex.com/news-b...ion-24527.html The hacker further makes reference to an online resume but does not provide the link as this is also just another fabrication. 7. Our current priority is focused on Charity and E-Commerce fraud. We have just published our report on Charity Fraud in China and are distributing it to over 3,000 know philanthropists and foundations around the world - free of charge. See these links: China Trade Commission Offers $10,000 Reward To Expose Charity Scams - Beijing Today Events China Stock, Biz, & Charity Fraud Black Lists Grows Over 30,000 At The China Trade Commission Fraudulent Chinese Charities & NGOs Investigated And Exposed By China Trade Commission | PRLog 8. As a few posters on forum have already pointed out, every fraud and scam creates victims - one way or another. As far as we know, no person(s) have ever claimed to have been cheated or victimized by the China Trade Commission in any way. Perhaps our accuser will now do so posing as yet another on-line identity. 9.Until last week we were unsure if our attacker was an envious competitor, or someone we had exposed and black-listed. We are now confident of the latter based on information received from the authorities and two forum posters and an email tip. When the authorities make an arrest, we will provide more details at that time. 10. Most all people in our business (due diligence, collections & arbitration) make plenty of enemies as do private investigators and law enforcement officials, including this gentleman who refers to an article we published on line that shows just how easy it is to defame anyone on line with almost no consequences due to anonymity. scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites We therefore urge everyone to please read the below article and consider the sources of your information, their motives, and any hidden agendas (like revenge) that they may have. Also take note of the date their on-line entity was created and if they can identify real victims that can be verified. GlobalTrade.net - Cyberspace Due Diligence Options - China - Country Risk In closing we thank all of our members and clients for their continued support and remind everyone else that our primary allegiance and accountability is to our clients and members, not to online anonymous hackers who seek more information only to cause us more problems, grief, and slander. We thank Mystery Guest for having the courage to speak up and we thank Scam Patrol, MoreThanCurious, Drytech, Chuck_In_China, Bandit-Buster, China Chick, Corvette Charlie, DripDrop, Peter Kwan, YinYang, Fred The Fed, OldFartFrank, and the others for defending/supporting us on line. We will not be baited into further arguments, and hope that intelligent minds prevail. We do not force or even solicit anyone to hire us for anything. Those that do, will always get complete confidentiality and our very best efforts. Last edited by CTC; Sep 29th, 2011 at 07:41 PM. Reason: Reformatted pargraphs 8, 9 , & 10 |
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Doing business with an entity or meeting someone from that entity is not a prerequisite for suspecting a fraud. If I receive an offer or a solicitation from a company that says its been in offering a service for 10 years and its domain was recently registered, and there is nothing on the internet except free press releases saying its been offering that service, I don't have to attempt to do business with them, i.e., get scammed, to suspect a scam and also warn others that they need to proceed cautiously in dealing with this "company"! Wouldn't the scammers love it if it were so! "Hey, you can't call us a scam since you haven't traveled to [Country] and met us!" I've actually responded to some scam emails before for the fun of it, and I have heard that retort more times than not. "If you don't believe me come down to [Country] and see for yourself." Nobody needs to know of a victim of a scam before they suspect one. Scammers would love that as well! Many scams go unreported and no serious person would simply rule out a scam because that scam hasn't been reported. Moreover, from what I can see, China Trade Commission's website has only been up three months. You say they have been in business since 1996 or 2005, however, there is no evidence of that. Yes, they put on Children's shows in 2009, that's not doing due diligence. Quote:
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Look closely at the fake profile "Mystery Guest" set up by CTC and its many aliases and the fake "confession":
scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites The avatar was obviously copied from this post here: scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites Initially CTC used this icon and had "Support" under it, but I guess that was too obvious: Fraudwatchers Look at the ridiculous allegation. I'm some business man on Alibaba which the China Trade Commission caught. I'm stupid enough to hire a hacker and get drunk and make incriminating phone calls. Now why would this "Mystery Quest" register a new profile and use the same avatar to confess? Well the profile and confession are obviously fake, just like this one is: International Fraud Black List Well China Trade Commission was already stuck with their silly accusation that a "Mystery Guest" had hacked their site. A "Mystery Guest" who used a post office box belong to Privacy Post to accomplish this feat! GoDaddy can't be too pleased, because who would use them if their hosting is that porous!. See: scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites What a ridiculously silly story. I can't wait to see more, like them revealing my name since I'm still criticizing them. Please! I have watched soap operas with more believable scripts. I'm not on their black list, my motive, is to expose a fraud and save potential victims money. Oh and China Trade Commission doesn't advertise, this thread started as an advertisement. So, consider that obviously fake profile and the overly dramatic confession when you decide how much weight to give China Trade Commission's story. They can't disclose the mysterious cn. domain because its been used for scam baiting? Of course, scammers would flock to a due diligence site? The simple fact is, the .cn domain was invented so that CTC could argue they had been in business 7 years despite the fact that their domain was only registered three months ago. It's not disclosed because it doesn't exist! Just like they made the fake profile Mystery Guest, they made the fake profiles: Scam Patrol, MoreThanCurious, Drytech, Chuck_In_China, Bandit-Buster, China Chick, Corvette Charlie, DripDrop, Peter Kwan, YinYang, and Fred The Fed, OldFartFrank Look at this post here: International Fraud Black List Quote:
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How convenient all the accusations are. I'll just point out some of the most ludicrous. : "* Uploading of pornographic and other unauthorized photos, including some taken from Facebook to our web site which were immediately reported to us and removed." Of course, that explains how an image of "Patricia" from Facebook was placed on their website. See: Fraudwatchers - View Single Post - China Trade Commission is a SCAM - chinatradecommission.org chinatradecommission.com "* Filing false abuse and spam reports to get 37 of our ads and links going back to 2008 deleted" Well that would conveniently explain why there are is no independent record of the China Trade Commission doing anything but putting on Children's shows. All of these websites are so silly that they would just accept a false report. It's hard enough to get a website to accept a true abuse report never mind a false one. * Making false copyright infringement claims that were dismissed as erroneous within 72 hours of his report being made. The copyright infringement was cured, CTC took down the copyrighted material, which is why their site was restored. Hmmm, why would they take it down if there wasn't a violation. See: Fraudwatchers - View Single Post - China Trade Commission is a SCAM - chinatradecommission.org chinatradecommission.com and Fraudwatchers - View Single Post - China Trade Commission is a SCAM - chinatradecommission.org chinatradecommission.com "Within the last year we have succeeded in exposing more than 57 fraudulent ads at Alibaba, 29 ads at Craigslist, 16, ads at TradeKey and 12 ads at Kijiji which were involved in criminal activity ranging from 419 Nigerian Scams to phishing, and assorted other frauds. As a result many of those scammers had their IPs blacklisted and banned, and they surely lost a great deal of their income streams" Or course, as per usual, there is no independent evidence whatsoever. Which is typical. There is never any independent evidence of anything the China Trade Commission states, including its surrogates posts on scam.com The CTC simply believes that because they say its so, you should simply take their word for it or maybe you should take the word of a "lawyer" using a free email address: AttyJosephWu@126.com "* Attempted to link one of our directors Anthony A. DeMarco to an alleged criminal that has a similar name." I thought it was "Anthony S. DeMarco"? Oh well, that much be a typo...wink wink, nod nod. There is no attempt. There is no doubt that Anthony Dimarco, Anthony Demarco and Bruce A. Gorcyca are the same person. The CTC has never been a defendant in any criminal or civil matter in any legal jurisdiction. Oh but their Executive Director sure has been! The hacker further makes reference to an online resume but does not provide the link as this is also just another fabrication. Here is the link to the resume which was removed...so China Trade Commission could make their dramatic proclamation that there was no resume. It is still in the cache: ???? - Anthony DiMarco - ????? Moreover, a copy has been saved. There is another one here, though not as detailed, which will no doubt soon disappear, but a copy if it has been saved as well: ????1 Let's face it, if there was evidence that your Executive Director was a former fugitive, a convicted felon, a former prisoner, a stock manipulator and a deadbeat debtor, you wouldn't really want his resume's hanging around. So once it was disclosed, they had it removed. However, there is more than enough evidence without the resume. I will set it forth again: Anthony Dimarco/Demarco/Gorcyca is the Executive Director of China Trade Commission. His name is given as Anthony Dimarco and/or Anthony Demarco in many of the press releases. See free press releases below: China Trade Commission Membership Rolls Now Exceeds One Hundred Thousand Worldwide International Collection Soar Due To China Biz Boom According to China Trade Commission Report China Trade Commission Reaches Arbitration Milestone With 3,000 Cases Totalling $3.8Billion USD Hundreds Marvel At New Green Inventions On Display At China Trade Commission Technology Symposium In Beijing Anthony DiMarco is also known as Bruce A. Gorcyca Dimarco, Anthony Demarco, Bruce A. Gorcyca and is a convicted felon. He was convicted of bribery and severed time in prison. He has had several run ins with the SEC for pump and dump scams and fraudulent press releases. He moved to to Canada when he found out the SEC has charged him with stock manipulation. He fought extradited from Canada, lost and was extradited to the United States to face those charges. He was sued by a law firm that represented him for non-payment of over $200,000 Canadian dollars in legal fees. Here are some links below: Securities and Exchange Commission SEC News Digest S.E.C. Civil Suit Says Faxes About 12 Stocks Were False, New York Times Man of Letters, Miami New Times SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION v. THE GLOBUS GROUP, INC., et. al, No. Civ. 99-CV-1968 (S.D. Fla.) Supreme Court of Canada, Bruce Anthony Gorcyca aka Anthony Dimarco aka Tony Dimarco aka Tony Demarco aka Tony D. Marco aka Bruce Dimarco v. Minister of Justice, et al. Prouse, Dash & Crouch, L.L.P. v. Dimarco, Ohio 8th District, Court of Appeals Prouse, Dash & Crouch, L.L.P. v. Dimarco, Ohio Supreme Court Trans Global Holdings Inc · 10SB12G/A · On 1/23/01 Author Profile Bruce A Gorcyca Daily Legal News - Real Estate - Sheriff's Sales - Foreclosures - 443-09-006 - Prouse Dash & Crouch LLP, plaintiff vs. Bruce Anthony Gorcyca DiMarco, a.k.a. Tony DiMarco and Bruce Gorcyca, et al., defendants, There is more evidence that Anthony Dimarco, Anthony Demarco and Bruce Gorcyca are all the same person and that person is the Executive Director of the China Trade Commission. |
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Several reputable sources list Bruce A. Gorcyca as an alias for Anthony Dimarco.
Daily Legal News - Real Estate - Sheriff's Sales - Foreclosures - 443-09-006 - Prouse Dash & Crouch LLP, plaintiff vs. Bruce Anthony Gorcyca DiMarco, a.k.a. Tony DiMarco and Bruce Gorcyca, et al., defendants, S.E.C. Civil Suit Says Faxes About 12 Stocks Were False - NYTimes.com "Mr. DiMarco, who used to be known as Bruce Gorcyca, is a former Internal Revenue Service agent who served more than three years in prison in the 1980's after pleading guilty to bribing a public official and making fraudulentNow here is a link Bruce Gorcyca's Author Profile: Author Profile: Bruce A Gorcyca Bruce Gorcyca holds degrees from Inter American University in business administration, political science, and public administration. He is a veteran of the U.S. Coast and former Fortune 500 executive and former U.S. Delegate to the China Trade Commission. A native of Parma, Ohio he is the founder and current chairman of the Veteran Organ Donors International organization, and is currently employed as an international business consultant.Anthony Dimarco's resume was posted online at this link: "http://www.boyatimes.com/Teacher2.aspx?id=81" however, since this blog was posted it has since been removed, hmmmmm? It can also be accessed here: Anthony Dimarco's resume 姓名: Anthony DiMarcoNote that both of these individuals and reputable news accounts indicate: 1. They have both been Coast Guard veterans 2. Former IRS investigators 3. Former U.S. delegates to the "China Trade Commission" 4. From Parma, Ohio. That quite a lot of coincidences. The evidence is clear that Anthony Dimarco, Anthony Demaco and Bruce A. Gorcyca are the same person and that person is the Executive Director of the China Trade Commission and a convicted felon, fugitive from justice, stock manipulator and a deadbeat debtor. There is more interesting information: Let's look more closely at that resume 1996 - 1999As stated before, there is no independent internet record of any such "China Trade Commission" and it certainly is not the "China Trade Commission" now represented by chinatradecommission.org There is a US-China Trade Commission which was created in 1983 which is a traditional trade commission, with quasi government backing, that endeavored to bolster trade between the United States and China, not a for profit organization which offers due diligence, arbitration, collection, certification, etc. Here is a link to a story about that organization: U.S.-China Trade Commission to Meet in Washington That might explain how Dimarco/Demarco/Gorcyca came up with the idea of the scam China Trade Commission. Note that Dimarco/Demarco/Gorcyca claims to have worked for Investor Services International, Inc. which is precisely the organization that registered the chinatradecommission.org and chinatradecommission.com domains on July 9, 2011. See Domain registration. 姓名:Anthony DiMarcoInteresting enough the phone number listed on Dimarco resume for Investor Services International, Inc., 905-891-8191, belongs to either Pacific Blue Products or Pacific Blue Productions. This company was apparently in his wife's name as court records show, further evidence that Anthony Demarco and Anthony Dimarco and Bruce Gorcyca are the same. See: Prouse, Dash & Crouch, L.L.P. v. Dimarco, Ohio 8th District, Court of Appeals Here is a real irony: See this post by "Scam Patrol" scams - View Single Post - Merchants Barter Exchange FRAUD - Steve Bolles Look at one of the links in that post: Tommy Roberts, et al v. Merchants Barter Exchange, et al :: Justia Dockets & Filings The case is 08-1833 and it was filed March 27, 2008 in the U.S. Court of Appeals, Third Circuit The lawsuit as against against MERCHANTS BARTER EXCHANGE, and STEVEN ROBERT BOLLES, however, the another defendant is: Quote:
This is a free press release claims that Dimarco/Gorcyca was involved in the supposed Merchants Barter Exchange scandal. The free press release blamed the scandal on him. Of course, I think nothing of free press releases as they are self-serving, however, at one time, China Trade Commission's fax number 212-820-9746 was the same as that of Merchants Barter Exchange's. See CTC's free press releases here: China Trade Commission Opens Beijing Office and free press release company directory. And this free news release regarding Merchants Barter Exchange MBE Successfully Completes Phase II of Beta Testing on Automated International Barter Software For Fortune 500 Companies Another free news release alleged that Dimarco/Gorcyca is attempting to profit of MBE by selling due diligence materials.ARE VICTIMS OF BARTER FRAUD COMMITTING THEIR OWN SCAM? Something the China Trade Commission scam is doing? There are a lot of very other interesting connections: CTC's phone number 86-10-82615180 is the same as the Kentec Group that states that they paid an advance fee for funding from American Independent Capital Group, which they never received. American Independent Capital Group was operated by Sam Arnold, who Scam Patrol and CTC named the Beijing Bandit. CTC claimed to have exposed American Independent Capital Group though there is no independent evidence of this. Kentec denies funding claims of American Independent Capital Group Perhaps even more interesting is the fact that Hobson Secondary Oil Company employs Dimarco/Gorcyca. (Demarco is listed as one of his aliases) Anthony DeMarco. Director of Licensing & EurAsian Operations.This press release also identifies him as the Licensing Director Hobson Secondary Oil Rejects $1.5Billion Acquisition Offer From Oil Industry Giant Ironically enough, the China Trade Commission endorsed Hobson Secondary Oil Company! Hobson Secondary Oil Technology Endorsed By China Trade Commission Is Russia cheating China out of new energy technology? Here is another China Trade Commission free press release which promotes the company:CTC Confirms Hobson Secondary Oil to perform high-tech demonstration in China this year Another interesting note, see this free company directory entry for Pacific Blue Solutions It gives their phone number as 647-295-4647. Pacific Blue Solutions, Ltd.Well that's the same number for the "PR Director" of Hobson Secondary Oil which can be seen on this press release already shown above: Hobson Secondary Oil Rejects $1.5Billion Acquisition Offer From Oil Industry Giant Hobson Secondary Oil, Inc.:The number 647-295-4647 also appears on Dimarco's resume: 2000 - 2004 Oxford English Academy 940 The East Mall Toronto, Ontario Tel: 647-295-4647 Position: Executive Director/Headmaster Well strangely enough China Trade Commission endorsed Pacific Blue Solutions! China Trade Commision Endorses Pacific Blue Solutions of Canada To Tackle Water Pollution Crisis Are you starting to see a pattern yet? No actually, they say two could be a coincidence. The company below is advertised here: VENTURE, PROJECT & EXPANSION CAPIATL Manufacturer Sources | Globalgrabber.com Strategic Resource GroupSame phone number as Dimarco/Gorcyca in his capacity as Director of Licensing for Hobson Secondary Oil Company. And of course, China Trade Commission announces a partnership with Strategic Resource Group: CTC partners with Strategic Resource Group to Provide FREE Interviews Skills Seminar in Beijing Here's another one: Look at this press release: Drama Rainbow Now Asking Multi-National Companies in China to Help Foster Creative Kids in Beijing Quote:
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So the "China Trade Commission", is too busy promoting chosen companies that Dimarco/Demarco/Gorcyca is a closely tied to do much of anything else...which is convenient because that's all it actually does! Well of course attempting to con victims into believing that they are paying membership fees of $5,000 to $10,000 to a 15 year due diligence company is one of the other things they do! The irony of a someone who has been charged with SEC violations directing an organization that is supposedly alerting the public to stock fraud cannot be over exaggerated. See: China Trade Commission Issues Global Fraud Alert Exposing Two Dozen Suspect Chinese Stock Frauds Just as amusing is this press release: See: Chinese Debt Collection No Longer Mission Impossible - Pay Up Or Lose Face I guess not paying your debts makes you an expert on how to collect them? In closing, I have to resort to a cliches, "You can catch a thief but you can't catch a liar" If anybody wants to give China Trade Commission their hard earned money to do due diligence for them I direct them to another cliche...a fool and their money are soon parted! |
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Thank you for teaching us all a few valuable lessons as follows:
1. If you lose one argument, change your screen name and simply start a new argument as someone else (you posed as "Mystery Guest" and "Interesting Observer" at Scam.com where all your arguments were shot down by others), so you come to this forum three weeks ago as "Due Diligence" and in five days promote yourself from "Junior Member" to "Senior Member" to enhance your credibility. Here you avoid the arguments you lost at Scam.com, and start fresh with new bogus allegations. 2. When over a dozen people disagree with you, just call them all "liars" or "shills" (as you did five times as all three entities) 3. When people ask you directly to identify a specific scam and verifiable victims of the alleged scam, there is no need to answer - just start ranting about something else and throw in a diversionary red herring or two! Neither Due Diligence, Mystery Guest, or Interested Observer (the same person identified as "Steve" by his own employee!) never once told us WHO was cheated, HOW they were cheated, WHEN they were cheated, nor WHERE they were cheated! A scam without a single victim is quite a marvel - and a virtual impossibility. 4. You can say anything you want behind the legal safety of an anonymous screen name since you cannot be identified and sued for libel, slander, nor defamation. See this link for details. http://www.globaltrade.net/international-trade-import-exports/f/business/pdf/China/Investing-Cyberspace-Due-Diligence-Options.html 5. When nobody else agrees that your alarm bells are justified, just keep posting the same crap over and over again and maybe you will just wear down your opponents, or better yet, find a criminal with a similar name and try to link the criminal to the fraud that has no victims. In our business we call this move a "Johnny Cochran" known in the legal trade as a the "master of confusion". For those who forgot who this lawyer was, he was the guy who craftily confused a jury to the point where they disregarded DNA, and eye-witness testimony evidence and found O.J. Simpson innocent of murdering his wife. 6. When others point out that real live witnesses and news archives contradict what you only suspect, ignore them and keep insisting that your own personal opinion overrides anything and everything argued by others. Sooner or later your opinion will magically become fact. 7. Use a bunch of non-existent, broken, or dead links to back up your argument and if anyone bothers to call you bluff, you can always say "somebody deleted them" 8. When people still refuse to believe you because of old ads or press releases that bear dates, you simply file false spam or abuse reports to get those contradicting ads deleted. 9. When the facts are not convenient for you, you can just say that something is a scam simply because they added a new website, or their lawyer has a free email account like gmail. yahoo, aol, etc. HEck, we all know that everyone who uses gmail, yahoo, msn, etc. simply must be a criminal! Almost 70% of all Chinese email accounts at at 126.com, sina.com, or 163.com so that equates to 700 million criminals in China! 9. But the biggest lesson we learned from you is that anyone who gets black-listed on line for fraud at Alibaba or Craiglist is free to take revenge against those who busted him anyway possible via slander, hacking, spamming, or general harassment as described in detail at this link: Check the China Trade Commission Fraud Black List BEFORE Doing Overseas Biz For someone whose only contact with the China Trade Commission was being exposed by them, you sure did spend a lot of time and energy to smear them friend. I for one hope your former partner in crime Mystery Guest comes forward with more interesting information about YOU and your "franchise fraud", "Internet Phishing" and the bogus ads you were/are posting on-line at Alibaba, Craigslist, Trade Key, and Kijiji. At least your partner in crime had a conscience as he demonstrates here: scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites scams - View Single Post - List of Scam Websites Anyone who resorts to making a false copyright infringement claim just to try an get a company's web site removed , or phony spam reports to remove ads or others is gutter scum. Only God know what other BS you have pulled on people who caught you in the act and tried to do the right thing. The most frightening thought is that there are hundreds of predators just like you baiting new victims with phony ads every day. One day you will cheat the wrong person who will make the effort to find, meet, and give you what you truly deserve. .
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Well its very amusing, but I think people who visit this forum are smart enough to realize that "Mystery Guest" is a fake profile that you put up "Fred the Fed" or should I say Anthony Demarco/Dimarco, and the "confession" is a case of an unrestrained imagination. Another reason not to believe what some poster says.
However, it really doesn't matter. The issue isn't me or you, it is whether or not China Trade Commission is a legitimate company that really does due diligence and I think its fairly clear its not. Don't let that stop you though Anthony and I'm sure it won't! It hasn't yet! For anyone who believes China Trade Commission is real, don't take any poster's word for it, including mine, do your own due diligence, before you part with $5,000 - $10,000. Last edited by Due Diligence; Oct 1st, 2011 at 02:41 PM. Reason: typo |
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Hello Kids... I just stopped by to follow-up on this debate and guess what boys and girls? Three days ago I was shopping in Haidian District for a new laptop at the Zhongguancun Center here in Beijing. After I bought my new MAC I went across the street to say hello to a friend of mine in an adjacent office building. Because the elevator was being repaired I took the stairs and found a partially empty office that had a sign over the door that said "China Trade Commission - If you have an appointment, please press red button" I took a photo with my camera but have no way to upload it to this web site. Whoever wants it send me a private message with your email address since I took the photo with my hi-res 35mm camera and the file is large.
I spoke to the security guard in the building and he said that the people from the China Trade Commission were mostly foreigners and some Chinese college kids who moved out last year after someone broke into the office and did some major vandalism. The office is now being used as a storage room for legal files of a law firm on another floor. The guard also showed me a another sign in Chinese taped to the wall that he says tells people to call 8255-1482 if they are looking for the China Trade Commission. He claims he helped them move out and the new office is less than one kilometer away on the opposite side of the street. He also confirmed that the CTC had moved into this office in the second half of 2009 but he could not remember more specifically. This place is very close to Peking University he says. When I looked through the door, I could see seal a CTC emblem painted on one of the walls with flags of various countries also painted on the same wall. I called the 1482 number and asked for an address, but they asked me for "an appointment number". Since I did not have one, the girl said she could not give me the address because of "security measures". She did offer to take my number and have someone call me back, but I passed on the offer. The security guard offered to take me to the new office location for $100!!! I have better ways to spend a hundred bucks. At least we can say for sure that the The China Trade Commission had an office in Beijing two years ago on Zhongguancun Avenue, unless I too will be called a liar. |
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Another poster that says, just take my word for it! Don't let things like actual evidence get in the way of your thought processes! People thinking about counting on the "China Trade Commission" for their due diligence and forking over $5,000 to $10,000 should look at this link: 419 Advance Fee Fraud: Anthony Demarco / Dimarco / Gorcyca and the China Trade Commission Scam
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Well check it out friends... Due Diligence is doing it yet again - trying to divert everyone away from this site and Scam.com (where all of his arguments were torn apart) only to start a fresh argument at yet another web site even, under yet another alias! What the hell does any of this have to with Nigerian 419 scams? You are one sick fellow and apparently unemployed as well. You spend hours everyday just trying to slander the China Trade Commission, and you STILL keeping calling everyone who disagrees or challenges you a "liar:" or "shill" even a guy who offers to give you a photograph as evidence. Clearly you are who "Mystery Guest" says you are at scam.com. - a very devious con artist. If anyone is still interested in why this moron is still crying wolf about an organization which has zero complaints and zero victims, take a jump over to this link and get the facts that this guy avoids like the plague.
List of Scam Websites (Start at post No. 27 and read your way down and decide for yourself what is fact and what is fiction. Keep in mind that Due Diligence is also "Interesting Observer" and his former self-confessed accessory is/was "Mystery Guest" in that same thread) According to Due Diligence only he is worth listening to, and everyone who has disagreed with him (over a dozen people and counting) is a liar, and anyone who uses a free email account or has more than one web site is a scam operator! He has made over 30 posts with the same rumors, gossip, and fabrication, but still cannot tell us who he is nor what he does for a living. How convenient. And he has a unique habit of always trying to have the last word on a forum to divert people to yet another forum where he is busy spreading lies anew. I think when Webster was defining the words "Evil" and "Malicious" he surely had this character in mind. Once again for maybe the tenth time, I am reminding everyone who reads these words that we spent over an hour surfing the net, and checked with both Interpol and the Beijing Police Department, and there is not a single complaint on file nor posted anywhere on the internet against the China Trade Commission, nor can we find any litigation past or present involving the organization. Perhaps this master of slander will now create yet another on-line alias to start filing phony complaints against the CTC or maybe even us at Scam Patrol ???
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