China scam on tradekey

Originally Posted by globotronik Hi, I have just been SCAMMED by a "company" that sells cell phones, laptops, and all that kind of stuff. The web page is WWW.THETOPELECTRONIC.COM, and the email address is kyle8008@hotmail.com. I bought more than a thousand dollars in iphones, and as all china fraud they didn't arrived. They gave me a tracking number for EMS shipping company, the tracking number was original but it was a tracking number to another place. They told me at the beginning that they were a serious business and that they wanted a long term business with me an all that bull**** they say to everybody. This was my first time making business with someone in china via internet. I have a small electronic business in Colombia (south America) and my suppliers were always from the States (very serious and punctual), but the prices weren't as cheap as the electronics of this fake china company. So I wanted to try with this china companies, that they say they have cheap electronics because the assembled factory of Mac, nokia, blackberry is in china, BULL****!!! DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS CHINA STORY!! Listen people we have to do something and we can, they are thousands of people who have been scammed just like me and you. We need to build a big community against these thieves that plays with our moral and trust. I’m looking forward to make kind of a web page, a huge database with the names and address of these thieves, a place where people around the world can not only place their experience, but also start thinking of taking some action against this frauds. For example, contact big electronic companies like Mac, Nokia, Sony, etc and ask them where they have their assembled factories and stuff like that, so we can’t be cheated with fake info from the scammers, It’s time to make difference against this people who scam good and honest people around the world. My email is globotronik@gmail.com; I’m open to ideas, question, everything, anyone who wants to write me, go ahead, let start making some changes. I speak English and Spanish. Let’s build a world solid community. Thanks

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COULD THIS BE A SCAM????????

I ORDERED PHONES FROM THE TRADER AT: Welcome to vip-wholesaler.com!.
THE SAID MR. MARK (sales manager) GAVE ME A WRONG TRACKING NUMBER, AND WHEN I TOLD HIM HE NEVER GAVE ANY EXPLANATION BUT HE KEPT ASKING ME IF I HAVE SENT THE MONEY FOR ANOTHER PROPOSED ORDER. HE TOLD ME THERE WAS NOT ANY PROBLEM AND THAT HE WOULD GET INTOUCH WITH TNT TO CHANGE THE TRACKING NUMBER. I HAVE BEEN SENDING HIM MAILS, OVER AND OVER BUT WERE ALL IGNORED. MY EMAIL IS interactionn@hotmail.co.uk


Zhongtang Electronic Co, Ltd. locates in an advantage transportation and convenient communication
place- Fujian of China.
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Company Name: Zhongtang Electronic Co., Ltd.
Company Address: 406 No.8 building Cangshan Area Fuzhou City , Fujian China
City/Province: Fuzhou/Fujian
Country/Region: China
Zip/Postal Code: 360007
Telephone Number: 86-591-26750872
Fax Number: 86-591-26750000
www.vip-wholesaler.com
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Contact Person: Mr. Mark Email or MSN: vip-wholesaler@hotmail.com
Position: Manager/Sales
Department: Sales Dept.
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Western Union account as following:

First Name is: Junmei

Last Name is: Peng

City is : Fuzhou

Province : Fujian

Country : China
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Hey, just found some good companies on tradekey. Well, there're so good to be true...

- First of all Evccpace. Look at this e-mail:
A:This really or reproductions?
B:Model:100% original Apple iphones 3GS 32GB.Warranty: one year

A:How much this apple sample price?
B:Unit/sample price: 290$ (include shipping)

A:Why are you so cheap price?
B:Because we are the agent, and the wholesale price.

A:Minimum order?
B:Minimum order:1PCS

A:Long time delivery?
B: Within 4-6 working days,Express(EMS/UPS/ DHL/FEDEX)

A:Can you accept paypal payment?
B:Yes.we can accept paypal.please don't worry.

A:Can you tell me your website and pictures? I need to reconfirm!
B:Please open this link (www.evccpace.com
Ablum: picasaweb.google.com/evccpace5

Should you have any more question please feel free to contact me.

If you think buy it .

Please looking forward to your reply as soon as possible

Tks

Sunny

MSN and Email
evccpace@hotmail.com

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- The other company is Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd Email:
Dear friend:
Have a nice day for you there ,it is nice got your inquiry from tradekey.com about apple iphone 3gs 32gb ,we are the professional mobile phone trading company in china from tradekey.com , we have 6 years mobile phone trading experience .we can supply below price for the phone.


Our phone is unlocked, original which comes from California , USA with the warranty, we can supply lower price to you here ,if you can buy 10pieces 3gs iphone 32gb there ,we can supply below price

3gs Apple iphone 16gb =260usd .3gs apple iphone 32gb=280usd


Our price include shipping cost already ,We delivery it to you with EMS,TNT DHL or UPS within 24 hours we will delivery the goods to you .within 3-5 das you can get them at your door .they are 100% safe shipping .
Please check our price and any problem do you have or whether you are interested in our phone please let us know ,we are the sincerely to establish business relationship with you for a long time in the future .

Looking forward to your reply.

Best regards
Apple



Contact Person: Mr. Apple Yu (Sales)
Company: Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd
Address: Nanda street, Haidian, Beijing, China
Zip/Postal: 100086
Telephone: 86-1520-5909436
Fax: 86-1520-5909436
Mobile: 1520-5909436
Link: [Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd]


What do you think? Are they scammers?

I am talking to the same guy, if he will accept PayPal then the risk is pretty slim on our part, he has sent me pictures of the iPhones and they look real. I also asked for a sample. If you move forward put a post in here and let me know how you make out...

Originally Posted by Adam Hey, just found some good companies on tradekey. Well, there're so good to be true... - First of all Evccpace. Look at this e-mail: A:This really or reproductions? B:Model:100% original Apple iphones 3GS 32GB.Warranty: one year A:How much this apple sample price? B:Unit/sample price: 290$ (include shipping) A:Why are you so cheap price? B:Because we are the agent, and the wholesale price. A:Minimum order? B:Minimum order:1PCS A:Long time delivery? B: Within 4-6 working days,Express(EMS/UPS/ DHL/FEDEX) A:Can you accept paypal payment? B:Yes.we can accept paypal.please don't worry. A:Can you tell me your website and pictures? I need to reconfirm! B:Please open this link (www.evccpace.com Ablum: picasaweb.google.com/evccpace5 Should you have any more question please feel free to contact me. If you think buy it . Please looking forward to your reply as soon as possible Tks Sunny MSN and Email evccpace@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------- - The other company is Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd Email: Dear friend: Have a nice day for you there ,it is nice got your inquiry from tradekey.com about apple iphone 3gs 32gb ,we are the professional mobile phone trading company in china from tradekey.com , we have 6 years mobile phone trading experience .we can supply below price for the phone. Our phone is unlocked, original which comes from California , USA with the warranty, we can supply lower price to you here ,if you can buy 10pieces 3gs iphone 32gb there ,we can supply below price 3gs Apple iphone 16gb =260usd .3gs apple iphone 32gb=280usd Our price include shipping cost already ,We delivery it to you with EMS,TNT DHL or UPS within 24 hours we will delivery the goods to you .within 3-5 das you can get them at your door .they are 100% safe shipping . Please check our price and any problem do you have or whether you are interested in our phone please let us know ,we are the sincerely to establish business relationship with you for a long time in the future . Looking forward to your reply. Best regards Apple Contact Person: Mr. Apple Yu (Sales) Company: Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd Address: Nanda street, Haidian, Beijing, China Zip/Postal: 100086 Telephone: 86-1520-5909436 Fax: 86-1520-5909436 Mobile: 1520-5909436 Link: [Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd] What do you think? Are they scammers?

Originally Posted by Adam Hey, just found some good companies on tradekey. Well, there're so good to be true... - First of all Evccpace. Look at this e-mail: A:This really or reproductions? B:Model:100% original Apple iphones 3GS 32GB.Warranty: one year A:How much this apple sample price? B:Unit/sample price: 290$ (include shipping) A:Why are you so cheap price? B:Because we are the agent, and the wholesale price. A:Minimum order? B:Minimum order:1PCS A:Long time delivery? B: Within 4-6 working days,Express(EMS/UPS/ DHL/FEDEX) A:Can you accept paypal payment? B:Yes.we can accept paypal.please don't worry. A:Can you tell me your website and pictures? I need to reconfirm! B:Please open this link (www.evccpace.com Ablum: picasaweb.google.com/evccpace5 Should you have any more question please feel free to contact me. If you think buy it . Please looking forward to your reply as soon as possible Tks Sunny MSN and Email evccpace@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------- - The other company is Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd Email: Dear friend: Have a nice day for you there ,it is nice got your inquiry from tradekey.com about apple iphone 3gs 32gb ,we are the professional mobile phone trading company in china from tradekey.com , we have 6 years mobile phone trading experience .we can supply below price for the phone. Our phone is unlocked, original which comes from California , USA with the warranty, we can supply lower price to you here ,if you can buy 10pieces 3gs iphone 32gb there ,we can supply below price 3gs Apple iphone 16gb =260usd .3gs apple iphone 32gb=280usd Our price include shipping cost already ,We delivery it to you with EMS,TNT DHL or UPS within 24 hours we will delivery the goods to you .within 3-5 das you can get them at your door .they are 100% safe shipping . Please check our price and any problem do you have or whether you are interested in our phone please let us know ,we are the sincerely to establish business relationship with you for a long time in the future . Looking forward to your reply. Best regards Apple Contact Person: Mr. Apple Yu (Sales) Company: Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd Address: Nanda street, Haidian, Beijing, China Zip/Postal: 100086 Telephone: 86-1520-5909436 Fax: 86-1520-5909436 Mobile: 1520-5909436 Link: [Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd] What do you think? Are they scammers?

Yes, they are a scam. I personally spoke with this Apple Yu person and ordered $475.00 worth of Apple iPod Touch goods. I never received my products till this day. I was given two tracking numbers. The first number the product was sent and signed by someone else and the second only had two day worth of information and has not been updated till this day. Luckily for me I refuse to western union my money. I only would pay him via PayPal because then I know my money is insured if I did not receive my products. Well as of right now my claim is still in progress and no response from the other party so the claim will likely go in my favor. I just want to let people know how these scam business operate and to not let yourselves be taken victim of these disgraceful people. Below are the email messages I had with Apple Yu from the beginning till end.

***Start from bottom of email and work your way up***

From: Arielle Williams
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:46 PM
To: Apple Yu
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods

When I first came to you interested in your products you were very quick to respond to my message and very helpful. I do not feel the same way now. I sent a message to you 3 day ago questioning you about my latest shipment. There has not been no activity on my shipment since the 20th of October. I have been very straightforward with you and even gave you a second chance when the first shipment got screwed up, but now I am feeling cheated by you and feel you have no intentions of sending me my products. Your customers should never get to this point because it could cause you to lose a lot of potential business. I really do not have any more to say and I am considering reporting you to tradekey as a bad business dealer.

From: Arielle Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:06 AM
To: Apple Yu
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods

Why is my package not moving? It has been sitting in the same spot for 2 days now

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods
To: "Arielle Williams" <awmarketexpert@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 7:23 PM


Dear Sir,
Sorry for late reply.
There must be some mistakes. We hope to do business with you, never want to lost you.
Please allow us to resend goods to you. Here is tracking number: ct179458005cn
Please reply.
Thank you.
Apple Yu


From: Arielle Williams
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 5:31 PM
To: Apple Yu
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods


Hello,

I sent you a message yesterday I do not know if you received it or not, but I have not received my products yet. I checked the tracking information you gave me and it says the package was mailed to the UK and signed by a D. Jones. Does this mean I will not be getting my package? If I do not receive a response I have to put a claim in with PayPal so that I can get a refund. I want to do business with you but if you are not straightforward I will have to find another wholesaler. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

From: Arielle Williams
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:40 AM
To: Apple Yu
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods

Hello,

I was checking up on my item and noticed it was delivered to the united kingdom and signed by a D. Jones. What does this mean I don't understand why I have not received my products yet. Please get back to me so that I know what is going on. Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone

--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods
To: "Arielle Williams" <awmarketexpert@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 8:26 AM


Dear Sir,
I am writing to tell you the tracking number: EA719869954CN. Courier website is www.ems.com.cn
There is a National Day holiday, I am sorry for any inconvenience about the shipping.
Please try to check it online in about 3 days.
Thank you very much.
Apple Yu

--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods
To: "Arielle Williams" <awmarketexpert@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 4:38 PM

Dear Sir,
Thanks for your quick reply.
We will send goods to you tomorrow.
Re. Apple iphone 3G and 3GS, our prices are:

Apple iPhone 3GS 32GB 180 USD/pc
Apple iPhone 3GS 16GB 150 USD/pc
Apple iPhone 3G 16GB 130 USD/pc
Apple iPhone 3G 8GB 110 USD/pc

All phones are unlocked.
After this deal, hope to sell more goods to you.
Thank you.
Apple Yu

From: Arielle Williams
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:30 AM
To: Apple Yu
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods


Thank you I have sent the payment. Do you also carry authentic apple iPhones 3g and 3gs? If so, how much are these going for wholesale prices? Do you sell unlocked iPhones?

--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods
To: "Arielle Williams" <awmarketexpert@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 4:21 PM


Dear Sir,
It is ok for your order at total amount 475 USD.
Our Paypal account is meathers@gmail.com
Looking forward to your payment information.
Thank you.
Apple Yu


From: Arielle Williams
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:33 AM
To: Apple Yu
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods


Hello again,

I am ready to purchase 5 apple ipod touch 2nd gen 32gb. I know you stated they were 100/piece. I was wondering if I could still get 5 of them for $475. If you let me get them for this price I am ready to pay right now for them. If the product is up to standard when I receive them you will have a permanent buyer. Do you also carry authentic apple iphones 3g and 3gs? If so, how much are these going fr wholesale prices? Are any of these unlocked? Please get back to me as soon as possible so that we canget this transaction in process. If the $475 is acceptable you can send the PayPal link in the next email so that I may pay you. Thank you and I look forward to doing much more business with you.

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods
To: "Arielle Williams" <awmarketexpert@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 5:18 PM


If you want to do dropshipping, shipping cost will be 30 USD when each parcel don't reach 5 pcs.


From: Arielle Williams
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:58 AM
To: Apple Yu
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods


Could you explain how your dropshipping works? How much would each ipod touch cost?

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods
To: "Arielle Williams" <awmarketexpert@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 4:16 PM


We accept Paypal, however, our request is that your order must be more than 500 USD.
If you are ready to buy, please feel free to contact us.
Thank you.


From: Arielle Williams
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:13 AM
To: Apple Yu
Subject: Re: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods


You do not accept paypal?

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Apple Yu <yukings@hotmail.com>
Subject: Wholesale Apple iPod touch goods
To: awmarketexpert@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 3:25 PM


Dear Sir,
We wholesale Apple ipod touch 1st and 2nd generation players.
100% authentic and brand new goods are available for selling. 1 year Apple warranty.
There is our pricelist.
Item Wholesale price
Ipod touch 2nd gen 32gb 100 USD/pc
Ipod touch 2nd gen 16gb 85 USD/pc

Wholesale MOQ is 5 pcs. All shipping free. Dropshipping is accepted.
Payment methods: T/T, Western Union.
Delivery time: 3-7 days.
Courier: TNT/EMS.
If you have interest, please feel free to contact us.
Thanks & Best regards.
Apple Yu

Company: Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd
Address: Nanda street, Haidian, Beijing, China
Zip/Postal: 100086
Telephone: 86-1520-5909436
www1.tradekey.com/selloffer_listall/uid/3215193/Beijing-YKings-International-Trading-CO-lTd.htm (Sell Offers & Products of Beijing YKings International Trading CO., lTd)
www.369wholesale.com (369 Wholesale---Trustful trading partner)

Hi

So i am assuming that you didnt get your products.
I was trying to order 2-3 iphones original and no chinese/fakes.Thanks for the warning.
if you do find some supplier please do let us know.

thanks

Originally Posted by Unregistered Hi So i am assuming that you didnt get your products. I was trying to order 2-3 iphones original and no chinese/fakes.Thanks for the warning. if you do find some supplier please do let us know. thanks

Nope no products ever came. I am waiting on PayPal to refund my money now. They give the other party 10 days to respond to their email on the claim is placed. If they get no response within the 10 day to resolve my claim I place with them the claim will be found in my favor and I will be refunded all of my money. I filed my claim on 10/19/2009 so I only have to wait 2 more days. If you do ever find a supplier make sure they except PayPal so your money is insured. If the supplier urges you to pay via Western Union or money transfer because they say it faster...RUUUUUNNNN FAST. Sure, if I do happen to come across a legit supplier I will let everyone know.

Originally Posted by Unregistered ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++ COULD THIS BE A SCAM???????? I ORDERED PHONES FROM THE TRADER AT: Welcome to vip-wholesaler.com!. THE SAID MR. MARK (sales manager) GAVE ME A WRONG TRACKING NUMBER, AND WHEN I TOLD HIM HE NEVER GAVE ANY EXPLANATION BUT HE KEPT ASKING ME IF I HAVE SENT THE MONEY FOR ANOTHER PROPOSED ORDER. HE TOLD ME THERE WAS NOT ANY PROBLEM AND THAT HE WOULD GET INTOUCH WITH TNT TO CHANGE THE TRACKING NUMBER. I HAVE BEEN SENDING HIM MAILS, OVER AND OVER BUT WERE ALL IGNORED. MY EMAIL IS interactionn@hotmail.co.uk Zhongtang Electronic Co, Ltd. locates in an advantage transportation and convenient communication place- Fujian of China. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Company Name: Zhongtang Electronic Co., Ltd. Company Address: 406 No.8 building Cangshan Area Fuzhou City , Fujian China City/Province: Fuzhou/Fujian Country/Region: China Zip/Postal Code: 360007 Telephone Number: 86-591-26750872 Fax Number: 86-591-26750000 www.vip-wholesaler.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Contact Person: Mr. Mark Email or MSN: vip-wholesaler@hotmail.com Position: Manager/Sales Department: Sales Dept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Western Union account as following: First Name is: Junmei Last Name is: Peng City is : Fuzhou Province : Fujian Country : China ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++

kyle8008@hotmail.com

This is a scammer. He is Fake!!!!!!!
Attention Please !!!!!
Cheater!!!!!

I talked with the Chinese police. I gave them the required information.

Please don’t send under the adress money:

Western Union Info:
First name: SHIQIANG
Last name : SU
City: Putian
Province: Fujian
Country:
Zip code: 351100

and

Money Gram Info:
First name: CHUNHUA
Last name : SU
City: Putian
Province: Fujian
Country:
Zip code: 351100

if you have a questions, contact me please!!!

MSN: mert_can2@yahoo.com

Thanks.