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Originally Posted by Unregistered no risk, no earnings

FORever Belief (HK) Trading Ltd.

IS A BIG SNEAKY FRAUD! I AM A VICTAM THEY SUPPOSIBLY SHIPPED ITEM OUT TO ME GAVE ME A TRACKING NUMBER FIRST CHECKED THOUGHT IT WAS ALL GOOD THEN THE SHIPPING GOT DELIVERED TO NEVADA WHEN I AM IN CALIFORNIA CALLED SHIPPING COMPANY THEY SAID THAT IT WAS NEVER SHIPPED TO YOU IT WAS SHIPPED TO SOME GUY NAMED "LEE" IN NEVADA SO I REPORTED FRAUD ON THEM AND NOW THERE IS INVESTIGATION BY US PRSTAL FRAUD POLICE.



DO NOT BUY FROM THESE THIEVES AFTER THEY GET YOUR MONEY THEY WILL NOT SHIP ITEM AND THEY WILL PLAY GAMES WITH YOU GIVE YOU FAKE TRACKING TO KEEP YOU SHUT FOR A WHILE. OR WILL STOP RESPONDING I HAD REPORTED THEM TO ALIBABA.COM AND GOT THEM REMOVED!

NEXT STEP IS TO GET THEM ARRESTED CALLING CHINA POLICE.

Actually, alibaba.com has never removed Forever Belief (HK) Trading Ltd.

I am now talking with Mr. Marco from Forever Belief, and my feeling told me to search for reference. THank GOD, thanks so much for your help.
I won't reply to them anymore.

THanks once again

[tkexplorer]

It was better if you had asked about the supplier before transaction. These type of frauds are pretty common these days. China should take some steps to catch these scammers. Chinese government has strict laws for foreigners I wonder if they have the same for their own business community.

[yctp]

Originally Posted by Unregistered I've been a victim of fraud via a business based in china. I've contacted the police here in the UK and they said that there is nothing they can do. I've contacted the payment processor and they are refusing to recall the funds back to me as they dont do that. I was wondering what the law is like in china regarding fraud. The situation is as follows:- 1 ... I found a web-site in china that would supply discount goods to the UK. 2 ... I checked the domain registration server and all the information matched what was given as paymetn address etyc. 3 ... I made contact via MSN to the owner of the site and conversed with him/her for a couple of days and all seemed fine. He/she was please to ship to the UK and informed me the item would take 5-10 days to get to me. 4 ... I made a purchase from the web-site and submitted it. 5 ... I paid the funds to the other person via a site called Moneybookers.com (the payment processor). 6 ... I had another conversation via MSN with the person I made the purchase from and informed them the payment had been sent. They confirmed they had recieved it. 7 ... The person told me the goods would be shipped the following working day their time. 8 ... He/she gave me a tracking number and told that it would be trackable within 24 hrs. 9 ... I tried the tracking number and it never showed. I contacted the person and they told me it was seized by customs and there was a paymetn due to get it released. I paid the extra funds and then never heard anything else. 10 ... I contacted TNT (Whom was suppose to courier it) and they informed me that they haven't picked up the item from the sender. They didn't even have an order to pick-up the item.

I can help you in this matter, should you care to send me details.

All the best,

Ken Stone

[yctp]

Originally Posted by Unregistered Our china experience, Please Help me for recovering our money. Beware hnfutian 引言: 要求对7人诈骗伪造团伙采取行动，他们以生意为名邀请外国商人，利用外商来访时由于语言不通无法与旁人交流 的情况，设下全 套骗取钱财。他们胁迫外商采取不当手段诈取钱财。他们签下的商业和约我们觉得毫无价值。 Request to take action against a 7 member group (Photo available), for cheating and forgery. They invites business people from abroad promising business, put them in trap and take money. They are taking the advantage of the situation when a person visits them , and cannot interact with others due to language problem. They impress the visitor and take undue advantage, extract money and send back.. They sign business contract which we feel is not having any value HENAN FUTIAN INTERNATIONAL TRADE CO.,LTD Tel:+86-371-63752882 Fax:+86-371-63752992 New Fax: +86-371-6339 6203 Add: No.330 Longhai Road Zhengzhou, Henan 450000, China Agricultural Road and Nanyang Road intersection (from one of add) Web: www.hnfutian.com http://www.hn-jianye.com/ Members (Photo available) SHU KUN ZHENG: Vice President (45yrs) XING YU WANG: Director (45yrs) SHI CHENG ZHANG: Import manager (45yrs) Mob +86 13938296752 CHENG BIN LI: Financial Manager (45yrs) ANDY ZHANG: Import Assistant (25yrs) Mob +86 13608673844? andy_futian@yahoo.com.cn GUO ZHOU CHEN: Secretary (30yrs) Mob +86 13526825442 Allen ren. Purchase director (20yrs) Mob +86 13526825445 Summery Their first mail on 18-sep2007 They sent us invitation on 27-sep2007 Mathew Reached in Zhengzhou , China on 22-Oct2007 Contract signed on 24-Oct2007. Their dinner party Expense US$3,500.00 Again they wanted $3,000 on 31-Oct2007 We sent on 14-Nov2007 by T/T Name: ZHOU JIAN MEI, A/C No.600966020030152. BANK OF CHINA ZHENGZHOU WENHUA BRANCH His ADDRESS: HENEN SHENG ZHU MA DIAN SHI QUE SHAN XIAN They got $3,000 on 16-Nov2007 Last contact 23-Nov2007. then GUO ZHOU CHEN: said 30%advance will send before 3-Dec2007. After 3-Dec2007 they didn't attending phone. Our total Expense $3,500+$3,000+our expense $3,500=US$10,000 Please help me. My email email@thodukonics.com, QQ 904451263, Skype: thodukonics, MSN: thodukonics

If you'd like me to assist you in this matter,please, feel free to contact me.

All the best,

Ken Stone

Im just curious why people outside china wants to purchase branded items in China? for sure most of buyers know that they are highly imitation or knock off one. i still suggest that people make research first what they are buying. we can easily check the pricing from your country wholesaler to local distributor and if you check from China seller that they are offering much lower than your local store, then something fishy must be going on. tendency is either refurbished or imitation.

Lets talk about custom issue thing also. Alot of buyers are asking seller to reship goods if stock in customs? i can say this is something that most of buyers dont understand. As SOP, it is out of seller's responsibility to cover customs declaration inside you country not unless buyer's pay some insurance fee and they do come to an agreement who will shoulder the custom taxes just in cases have to pay for it.


There are alot of honest and serious seller in China but to avoid those dishonest one, we just need to be extract careful. dont be attracted by low price products. im a business consultant in China and fraud cases are everywhere. usa, canada and other coutries,all over the world. we can prevent this if we will act wisely mentally and physically