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Old Jun 3rd, 2010, 03:21 AM   #1
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Alibaba.com is a scam outfit. It not only supports fraud committed by their members but even rewards them with the "gold status". We were defrauded by Zhejiang Kaikai Meiduo Locomotive Co., Ltd. aka Zhejiang Kaikai Meiduo Motorcycle Co., Ltd., and all complaints remain unanswered. Letters to chinese authorities have fallen into the black hole as well. Is this something associated with the chinese mentality? Looks like it...
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Old Jun 4th, 2010, 07:31 AM   #2
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I wish to inform you that you have already lodged a complaint with Zhejiang Kaikai Meiduo Locomotive Co., Ltd. aka Zhejiang Kaikai Meiduo Motorcycle Co., Ltd. and failed to resolve the matter. Therefore, you must lodge a complaint with Alibaba.com by filling and submitting their Trade Dispute Form online. If Alibaba.com is unable to resolve the dispute then you may file your complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center IC3. This complaint is filed online. You must provide all details of the complaint and your contact particulars. In addition, you may also file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission.

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Old Jun 4th, 2010, 04:25 PM   #3
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Nice try - we have submitted all requested documents to alibaba TWICE, and they still have managed to successfully ignore the issue. We have filed official complaints with the chinese authorities with the same result. Based on our experience, China is not a lawful society, and doing business there is simply impossible unless you are some kind of walmart with own factories and authorities purchased in bulk.
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Old Jul 12th, 2010, 04:48 AM   #4
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Unfortunately this happens all too often! You're right about some of this being an inherent part of the culture so by definition a company like Alibaba can't claim to keep users safe. I feel your pain. Perhaps you could try calling Alibaba's office or perhaps they have a presence in your country..?
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Old Oct 16th, 2011, 08:43 PM   #5
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Regarding China & The Law... Does anyone know the following which would be very helpful to the 7.2 million foreigners living here:

1. Where can we get legal documents notarized for less than $500 here in Beijing? I have to notarize a bunch of documents related to civil proceedings back home and it seems everyone here always charges the foreigner more. The embassy charges $300 but is only available one day a week to do this and that means standing in line for 3 hours and losing time from work. Is there and easier and cheaper way?

2. Also can an embassy detain you against your will for questioning about an immigration warrant issued for someone you know but is not a family member or someone you have not even seen in five years? My friend was held at the embassy for 12 hours while they waited for some investigator and translator to arrive from another city. Is this legal? Why can't they just get your information and make a follow-up call or visit. Since they do not let you take your cell phone into the building, she had no way to call anyone and nobody was able to pick up her 4 year old from Kindergarten! I thought this was outrageous. It took place at the U.S. embassy i Beijing and the guy who detained her said something like "Once you step into the gate of this embassy you are in America and all the U.S. laws apply here." Is this true for every embassy and what about a British citizen who visits the American embassy?

Thanks for your hep on these two matters.
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Old Nov 16th, 2011, 11:45 PM   #6
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I am looking for a China source for basalt rebar and the company needs to have a proven track record and references. I need a direct factory contact, not some agent trolling on-line.There are hundreds on the internet but half of them are black-listed. Does anyone have a whitelist?

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