Been Scammed By Chinese? Then Read This!

[yctp]

There are a lot of people who have lost money in China to scammers.

I know you feel gutted, raped, hung out to dry, impotent, and without any legal recourse to get your money back, or to set into action any series of processes to enable you to get your money back, or at the very least - to catch the perpetrator.

I want you to know, that just isn’t true.

Before you read further, I need you to understand that I'm not promising I can get your money back for you.

However, I can do something for you – on your behalf.

I can submit your case to all the relevant (case specific) and appropriate national and local (to the crime) authorities government in China and provide them with your contact details – the whole complaint written in the Chinese language.

Those pertinent departments include:

The local police.

Bureau of Fair Trade for Imports and Exports.

China Customs & Excise.

The Ministry of Commerce to the Peoples Republic of China (National Level)

Local Administration for Industry and Commerce (Regional Level)

Ministry of Public Security of the P. R. China Information Network & Security
(Which deals with internet fraud)

Department of Foreign Trade.

China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission.

Mediation Centre of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade, and

The bank involved.

And finally, I can assist you in engaging a lawyer, and act on your behalf, should you so wish.

I can do this for a small fee which will cover the translation costs of your case, and the submission time involved.

This is a new service I’m offering.

The very least that will happen is that your claims will be piped into official channels in the language native to the pertinent officers, and they will then contact you in English with further questions.

Should anything remain unclear, you may then refer them to me, as your interlocutor.

At least this way you can be assured that the perpetrator will be tracked.

In China, everyone is required to carry an ID Card.

You can’t open a bank account without one.

You can’t pick up money from Western Union without one.

In the vast majority of cases, but not all, you can’t set up a website without one.

You can’t register a business without one.

That means, if you have the bank account number of the person to whom you transferred the funds you have lost. Then the bank is in possession of his/her ID Card number.

That means, the police can approach the bank, get the ID Card number, and then track the individual down.

Once they’ve tracked him/her down by this means. They can also see how much money has come into that account, and from what countries. With a lawyer it then may be possible to contact all those others who have transferred money, through their banks to the perpetrator's bank, and ask if they received their goods.

If they did not, then it may be possible to bring all the victims together to start a class action suit against the perpetrator to ensure they’re taken off the streets.

Definition of class action suit: In law, a class action or a representative action is a form of lawsuit where a large group of people collectively bring a claim to court.

I’m as tired of reading about these villains as you are.

At the very least you will have some form of closure, and your feelings of impotence will be greatly ameliorated.

I will send anyone who requires this service the fee schedule upon personal communication through my profile here.

All the best,

Ken Stone

[the rock]

Do you work both sides of this common problem. A friend of mine (Chinese) got scammed twice by foreign "buyers". This problem is common on both sides, but more complaints come from foreign buyers.

[yctp]

Originally Posted by the rock Do you work both sides of this common problem. A friend of mine (Chinese) got scammed twice by foreign "buyers". This problem is common on both sides, but more complaints come from foreign buyers.

Actually, no I don't work both sides; as like you I'm resident here.

I'm very well aware that not all scammers are Chinese. Far from it!

In fact a recent report has indicated that although cybercrime is increasing as the recession deepens, with 50 percent more complaints reported to U.S. federal authorities in March of this year alone.

That although scams are global in origin, the main hubs appeared to be the U.S., Canada, Nigeria and China.

U.S.-based scammers comprised a total of 66 percent of all complaints, followed by 11 percent of scams originating in Britain, 7.5 percent coming from Nigeria, 3 percent from Canada, and a mere 1.6 percent from China.

Clearly indicating that in global terms, the Chinese are least responsible for overall cyberfraud or scamming.

However, of the 275,284 complaints received by the ICCC in 2008, roughly 73,000 were referred to U.S. law enforcement agencies for prosecution; with the most common complaint of 2008 being non-delivery of promised merchandise, followed by online auction fraud, credit card fraud and investment scams.

So, I'm not here to suggest that the majority of scammers are Chinese.

It's quite simply that I live here, and for those who have been hit by Chinese scammers, or fraudsters, I'm geographically situated, and culturally acclimated, to be of benefit to them.

However, who knows what the future may bring. Perhaps there may be a time when I start trying to work both sides of the water. But, till then, I'm afraid I'm here doing what I'm doing, and my current niche is what it is.

Finally, this PARTICULAR forum is about doing business in China (foreigners doing business here, not exclusively, but particularly), and my comments are consequent to that.

I hope I've answered your query to your satisfaction.

Thank you for the question.

All the best.

Ken Stone

[the rock]

Well it shows you are very wellinformed on the issues in this area. You are infact, providing a very important service.

[the rock]

Well it shows you are very well informed on the issues in this area. You are infact, providing a very important service.

[yctp]

Originally Posted by the rock Well it shows you are very well informed on the issues in this area. You are infact, providing a very important service.

Thank you for your confidence.

All the best.

Ken Stone