yor.com/net fraud help pls get word out

Originally Posted by Unregistered

YOR IS A SCAM SCAM SCAM FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD!! Their VOIP n their new health b.s. all filled with deceit n trickery etc..

ALL those Yor people are ALL FAKES!!!!

DO NOT --------DO NOT----------- DO NOT------
GIVE THEM LIST OF FAMILIES & FRIENDS SO THEY CAN SCAM THEM TOO!

yup not to mention all those bently lambo etc.. are ALL RENTALS!!.. lol
they don't even own it!!..lol If they did it have their names on the plates n insurance regs etc..lol with the amount of money they collect from dumb people well they can afford the couple thousand a day rentals or the hotel to make it look like they a successful company..lol ALL just a iLLUSION!! Too bad it's a hard lesson all you dumb stupid lack of intelligence people need to learn. Reality life is not fair n well if u give them the hard earn money u have made, i can see why ya ass is broke.
? u probably hesitate to give $500 bucks to your beest friend. So what makes giving to complete fast talking lying strangers even better??..lol commonsense If its' too good to be true it probably is.


Remember REAL companies PAY YOU! Not you pay them. Also if they say they starting a company for you. Complete lies. U can say the money i make in a REAL hourly job is used to help save n start my own company too!..lol Also I own the company 100%!! Also not through them. they just twist words around n confuse you. So let them confuse u that the money you invest will work for u!
Damn if u really want the money to work for you. U probably make more putting it all away in mutual funds n stocks! haha aka etrade or ameritrade etc. how much u want to gamble on stocks is up to u. The more risk the more return. the less rick the less return from investments in stocks or mutual funds. just do your research on it. OO yea just dont forget to file the taxes on it =)
OO yea gambling in atlantic city or lottery is waay better then yor health b.s. if u want to make big quick ez money.. BUT be prepare to loose it all too!..lol
lastly, Don't give them your hard earn money to fast talkers losers. You wanna get smart n be successful the right way.. go hit up barnes n nobles n read the money section n mags. Their education there is waay better then the lesson u learn from yor. etc!!

Lastly, report them to the NYC BBB and attorney general etc.!! Call 911 on their ass. Haha
OO yea SPIT ON ALL their Faces the leaders in Yor etc. Michael mo, jonhhy ly, dennis wong, chanty, etc. They all one big happy scamming family. Even better if u kick their ass for taking advantage of the weak n dumb no commonsense people.
On the otherhand on your free weekend.
PROTEST against them in FRONT of their hotel meetings n hand out fliers aka progranda about yor and all their lies n scams n everything!! This like their 5th company they opening up. Which means all the others was shutdown by government because they all SCAMS!! Save others like u from being conned!

DONT give in to peer pressure. All those people in there are more broke then u, I feel soo sorrry for them. They all desperate to make their money back from being conned in the first place. But oo well. that's life. because they too dumb n given their money to smart people. Remember rich ONLY get richer because they KNOW how to steal more from the dumb. The best is if u work for me for free. and i own your soul, hair, wife, kids, family, friends etc. everything. Off course this all comes from me giving you false promises n hope n all.

e.g. u lend out $1000 bucks. now what makes u think even if i'm your best friend i give it back to u?!?!..lol Haha even worst to a stranger like yor people.
remember once the money leaves your hand getting it back is tougher!

EXCUSE my drunk ass broken down english Haha here read all this stuff!

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YOR voip/health IS A TOTAL SCAM SCAM SCAM!!

YOR IS FRAUD & Filled with LIES!!

scam.com for more info too.
or worldlawdirect.com
or type in search engine yor voip scam, yor health scam etc..

Look at PDF file attachment

Nortorious Pyramid Scheme sweeping NYC (Yor.net or Yorvoice.net or NEW Yor.com for Yor Health)

PLEASE HELP SHUT THEM DOWN NOW!

2by2 or IXP.net goes by another name now:

Yor.net or Yorvoice.net, they claim to be a VOIP company. Watch out everyone they're all over New York City.
They changed their name to avoid the authorities.

View their illegal complaint, suit, and verdict at:
Federal Trade Commission - Home then perform search under their old name 2by2.net

or go straight to the location at:

Federal Trade Commission, Plaintiff v. Mall Ventures, Inc., d/b/a 2by2.net, et al. (C.D. Cal.)
Everything is stated there.

They are recruiting many through the internet.
Especially through Myspace.

They are running a multi level Pyramid Scheme. Off course it's illgeal too.
DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY SAY. THEY ARE COMPLETE LIARS & crooks!
They will say anything (TALKING IN CIRCLES) to STEAL ALL YOUR MONEY!

CONTACT State Attorney General if in (New York)
www. oag.state.ny.us/complaints/complaints.html

The Federal Trade Commission (Federal Trade Commission - Home)
New Virtual Private Server. ftccomplaintassistant.gov...d.aspx?Lang=en

The Better Business Bureau (Untitled)
New York: New York: Home
Also California
www. labbb.org

For refund call 949-681-6088 this # too.

FILE COMPLAINT NOW!! Take a few minutes only!!

You u will save lots of innocent people from being scammed in future including your friends, kids etc..

FILE COMPLAINT NOW & FOR FUN! Even if you get your money back! Because they will still screw you over if they could or had chance to.

And before you sign anything or give money talk to a Consumer Rights Lawyer first. Don't let anyone peer pressure you into joining anything; DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST!
If they really make money. They should pay you for your time.. Not you pay them n them offering u false promising off being a millionaire etc. Remember the saying if it's too good to be true it probably is!!

SHUT THESE CROOKS DOWN!
Yor.net aka: (2by2.net, IXP. net) or Yor.com (yor health)

Everything they do are all brainwashing n illusions!!

DO NOT GIVE THEM LIST OF FRIENDS N FAMILIES!

Also u make way more in a hourly min. job then with them:
Just calcualate the total time u enter hotel & leave n market their product etc.
VERSUS
total time X min. hourly.

Break it up into months & years n u can really see the difference in #'s

YOR Health, or Yor VOIP is a SCAM n WASTE of time.

Lastly, those yor Health products are ALL FAKE documents from FAKE doctors & FAKE websites. Cost only a few hundred to setup. How do u know what they say really true?!?! I can pay a person $5 bucks put a BUM on a website & b.s. all sorts of lies on it. including those testiminonalies.
If u like vitamins buy from centrum etc. cheaper & better & branded & real test! Their stuff will probably poison n kill you.

REPORT them to BBB, your attorney general etc. NOW!!

REMEMBER TIME & MONEY! So don't let them waste your time on their junk products.

If you see Dennis Wong & Michael Mo or Johnney Ly or joshua leaders etc.
like i say make sure to
SPIT IN THEIR FACE!

((~Same goes with all their other leaders!!~))
They all deserve it since they take advantage of the weak feeble minded people etc.

& the yor company is ALL SCAM & ALL LIES!!

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well i trust this will help u all if u read it all.

Yea wish they gave me that contact number when i was there,would have saved alot of trouble. So they have rentals, I'm sure they can scam enough for a lambo with one hotel meeting. They have 7-8 years doing this so i guess they are good at this. I was told that there is 14 lambos, i did not here anything about Bentleys? Since the drop out rate is so high almost 80%, they hold on to their sales. So if most people don't stay they get quite a profit.

all the cars these Johnny Ly and other Yor fags own.. are Leased… and how can they pay the lease? Yor money of course.. they hold meetings every thursday and sunday.. charging reps to enter… and lets do the math… sunday meeting is $20 each… lets say 500 reps attend with 1 guest each (= 500 guest…= 1000 people).. thats $20,000 just for attendance… (N.B.. some reps bring 5+ guests)..
to start up its $390..but now with the health stuff.. i dont really know how it goes but… lets say.. 250 of the 500 guests sign up… thats… $390 X 250 = $97,500 in sign up fees (N.B.. some sign up for the advanced package which is around $1170..but lets keep it basic).. so in all they amount to $20,000 + $97,500 = $117,500 from 1 meeting 1 day… well of course you must deduct hotel fees….which i dont know.. but its not gona cross $10,000 im sure… so roughly around $100,000 for that 1 sunday meeting mr Ly is makin.. so of course he can Lease a Lambo.. duuuhhhh…

so there goes ur money!!!

YOR IS SCAMMMM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need help

Here is my situation, long story make it short.....In the summer of 07 August is the month, i was recruited by Manny sanchez. I paid a full amount of $390 with my debit card. Yes very stupid in my part. I attended all of their meeting and tranings. It cost me so much money, i literally got $100 left on my bank account that month. Those guys told me i would make $1000 the first 2 weeks. LIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i finally reliazzed that this company and their people are bullshieters. I quit after 2 weeks without telling any of them. The first coiuple days they continuously called my cell phone even my myspace and facebook. After that, they never call again. So here is my question....this August will be one year, will they charge me $390 again since i never tell them i quit ? are they gonna charge my debit card ? PLEASE HELP ME

Yea we could see that they make money from the meetings. They like to talk about there product lastly though. Thats probably based on how people edify, they do have a product so I'm guessing thats how they get most of the profits. If the about 1900 customers pay $240,000 a month -taxes and overhead, that should be enough for a lambo. Most complaints are not about the service though, it will be about the sales polices. I guess they are about never losing sales, being aggressive rather than handling the refunds

Originally Posted by Unregistered

YOR IS SCAMMMM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need help

Here is my situation, long story make it short.....In the summer of 07 August is the month, i was recruited by Manny sanchez. I paid a full amount of $390 with my debit card. Yes very stupid in my part. I attended all of their meeting and tranings. It cost me so much money, i literally got $100 left on my bank account that month. Those guys told me i would make $1000 the first 2 weeks. LIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i finally reliazzed that this company and their people are bullshieters. I quit after 2 weeks without telling any of them. The first coiuple days they continuously called my cell phone even my myspace and facebook. After that, they never call again. So here is my question....this August will be one year, will they charge me $390 again since i never tell them i quit ? are they gonna charge my debit card ? PLEASE HELP ME

call the bank and tell them you "lost" your debit card, they will send you another one with a different card number. if you paid it on a credit card your out luck because credit card numbers are always the sames.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

YOR IS SCAMMMM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need help

Here is my situation, long story make it short.....In the summer of 07 August is the month, i was recruited by Manny sanchez. I paid a full amount of $390 with my debit card. Yes very stupid in my part. I attended all of their meeting and tranings. It cost me so much money, i literally got $100 left on my bank account that month. Those guys told me i would make $1000 the first 2 weeks. LIEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i finally reliazzed that this company and their people are bullshieters. I quit after 2 weeks without telling any of them. The first coiuple days they continuously called my cell phone even my myspace and facebook. After that, they never call again. So here is my question....this August will be one year, will they charge me $390 again since i never tell them i quit ? are they gonna charge my debit card ? PLEASE HELP ME

i was in the same situation you are in. except that i paid for 2 spots. it was my own friend who begged me to join. i felt sorry for him. when i quit i cut off contact with him completely. 1+ yr later he calls me saying he wants to xfer my acct to his. i thought he wouldve done that automatically. neways he wanted my ss# and said it would be harmless. when i said no, he threatened that the irs would come for me. hahaha. what pieces of ****! don't hope or trust that any of them were/are ethical and removed you from their system. i am 99% certain you are still an "employee". they have no principles. don't call any of the reps and give your ss# though. i suggest you call the # from a few posts back.

Yea i guess some reps don't want to lose a sale, they'll juts leave you there and pretend to touch your account. I would HATE... to find out they left my number in their system. They could do all types of things epically with yor bank account info.I guess they just keep the persons money like the one employee told me.

Guys/girls whomever replied an posted comments, I just want you all to know that you guys made my night. I just went to there seminar and right after it ended they wanted you to dish out 1200 bucks to startup. All the people smiling in your faces, i seriously got disgusted. And felt sorry for the people who actually fed into all the bull that was being pitched. The speaker didn't have any knowledge of who made the product he kept fumbling his words. Its a sad sight to see so many people so gullible and willing to spend that money. Either way they win. If you quit they win, you just lost 1200 bucks. Just like the Rocky song goes, "There's no easy way out" its the damn truth, you gotta work for your money. These people scam you and by the time you know what hit you they already left with your money. I feel bad for my friend who seems so into it, i hope she see's the light soon...Again, I want to thank all you guy/gals who posted today, it seriously made my night and had me cracking up.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Guys/girls whomever replied an posted comments, I just want you all to know that you guys made my night. I just went to there seminar and right after it ended they wanted you to dish out 1200 bucks to startup. All the people smiling in your faces, i seriously got disgusted. And felt sorry for the people who actually fed into all the bull that was being pitched. The speaker didn't have any knowledge of who made the product he kept fumbling his words. Its a sad sight to see so many people so gullible and willing to spend that money. Either way they win. If you quit they win, you just lost 1200 bucks. Just like the Rocky song goes, "There's no easy way out" its the damn truth, you gotta work for your money. These people scam you and by the time you know what hit you they already left with your money. I feel bad for my friend who seems so into it, i hope she see's the light soon...Again, I want to thank all you guy/gals who posted today, it seriously made my night and had me cracking up.

did you research the company b4 you went to the "meeting"... or did you jus realize the bs when u go tthere? lol

Whats the time limit on refunds and why aren't they allowed to make copies of their sign up documents. Why is it illegal? Shouldn't they inform you of this. If they do that is a big warning sign!! Do NOT press for info from them, cause they wont give it. They well tell you to TAKE NOTES, but its the same **** over and over. I guess they will say they are aggressive and don't lose sales. Well they sound the same after a while, so thats your indication to get the hell out of their. Also if the website is your receipt than it probably has the contact information there. One thing always read the fine print on any documentation before you sign up. I guess thats being aggressive, for you just watch the reps and make sure you get the copy of your information before you leave. If the reps try to give you the runaround heres the contact information from the BBB. If you got a lot of money its fine i guess. Some of they people they interview look like they need that 480, some don't so its just up to the person. It's gonna be up to you to see if you can pay, they try and use all the tricks they get taught by johnny ly and others.
The number is (949) 681-6088..... this is where you can call if you want your refund. I heard that if your past the initial period you can still get it back. I don't know how this work, but i guess its better than just taking their word for it.


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