yor.com/net fraud help pls get word out

like seriously c'mon i was stopped by these people like 3-4 times this year. I live in New york, and never seen this before. and from what i read is true, they tell you that you seem like a sharp person and whatever. they're like all over the city and i always makeup something just so they stop bothering me and asking a number just so they could bother you once again about this crap. and out of curiousity i end up doing a search engine on the so called companies they represent and always end up to links like these. so i thank the people for creating them, and adding stuff as well.

Next time they say you seem like a sharp person...just say "i am a sharp person which is why i wouldn't fall for a pyramid scheme!!"

i got the "ur look like a sharp guy!" routine too! 'cept i was too smart 2 join and smart enough to plow her first before saying no *WINK

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi everyone,

I wouldnt typically talk to a board like this unless I really felt like some people were really misinterpreting whats going on with YOR.com/Vorvoice/Yor.net.

My name is Dr. Cortez, I am 50 years old, and have been working with this company for quite some time now. I have made a great part time income in concurrence with my medical practice.

Whenever I hear about the fact that some people are negative about this company, I typically feel empathetic for for the company itself. What all of you need to understand about network marketing, any MLM company, is that they are fundamentally legal (of course, if it is MLM, with product requirements, a 2:1 product:rep ratio etc). Especially this company, which was investigated nearly 7 years ago by the FTC. The FTC does not keep companies alive that could even potentially hurt people. As most of you use this FTC investigation as some evidence against the company, did any of you really read it? The company was fined for the actions of some of the representatives, not for the actual company procedures. What this should tell all of you is that this company, or its founders even, are legitimate. Any anger, frustration, or hate toward this business are due to the business practices of certain individuals, not the company itself. In network marketing, where over 475,000 people get started daily (not in this company, but in all companies - Mark Kay, Avon, Mona Vie, Pampered Chef, Quixtar, etc), it is impossible to control the actions of every single rep. Therfore, if you feel you have been hyped, scammed, deceived, etc - it has been done by a rep, not the company.

To anyone complaining about the company, or industry, these people are simply uneducated. Every major billion dollar telecommunications and cable company are pouring millions into digital phone (Voip). AOL, Time Warner, comcast, AT&T Callvantage, Verizon, Netzero, SBC are all companies pouring money into VoIP. If youre someone that is trying to research this company - take it for face value. This companies' partnership with deltathree is fantastic. Yor.com's service, yorvoice, is comprised of Linksys hardware and the same software as Verizon. Their price is 16.67/mo with taxes included - no company that markets traditionally can compete with that.

Network marketing is the most effective form of marketing a product in the world. This is why most billion dollar companies - P&G, Coca Cola, Pepsi, etc. all of word-of-mouth divisions - it is the most effective, least costly way of marketing.

YOR.com is a VoIP MLM company. This is pairing the hottest trend in telecommunications (dont believe me, research reputable sources - not 18 year old children on the internet) with the most effective form of marketing.

If this company were illegitimate, it would be shut down. This is without question. Me? I have made an extra 1000-2000/mo simply by getting customers and building a small organization of partners to help promote the service.

If there are some reps that build this company incorrectly, that is that reps' responsibility. It is literally impossible to control everyone. The company has very strict representative conduct to make sure the company is promoted correctly, and if you have a problem with any representative, the company is open during normal business hours and you may call and complain about a representative.

Any complaints about the company itself is sort of silly, because the operations of the company itself are 100% legal, and if you build this business correctly, there is a great income opportunity. Anyone that promotes through hype, or promotes you will be wealthy overnight or get rich quick is not promoting correctly, and I as a representative of the company apologize to you for the incorrect recruiting and promotion of the business and its potential.

Noone that does MLM is full time immediately. It is meant to be a business that is built in concurrence with that you are doing - school, a career, a family, etc. I am only comfortable talking about this with all of you because this is what I have been personally taught by the founder of this company, Dennis Wong. He has never taught hype. He tells the reps exactly the way its supposed to be built - with the foundation of customers, and customer acquisition. Any hype or crazy sales techniques are NOT creation of YOR.com, but creations of representatives that aren't interested in earning their income, but are interested in getting rich quick - at the expense of others.

If anyone promotes this company, or recruits people with a different image than that, they are breaking the rules of the company. All of the things you all are complaining about are AGAINST company policy, and if people are doing it, you have the right to contact the company, give the name of the individual, and they can be terminated or placed on probation.

I say this to all of you to help you understand its not just young, angry, children building this business. All of the reps that get on here and embarass those of us building this correctly, the people that respond to all of you by saying "make money make money", people that call the people that don't do the company or are negative "bit*ches,", or "weak", or "average", or "broke" - I want you all to know that these people will be held accountable for what they are saying. This is not the image this company is trying to have. The companies customer growth right now is 200-250% growth, and this is the focal point of the business.

It is impossible to control the words and actions of all people, and to label a company a "fraud" or a "scam" simply because you heard the presentation or training of one individual, does not mean that individual is endorsed by the company.

I hope this message makes sense, especially to the people that are very negative about the business. If people come on here and respond to your complaints with attacks, I apologize to you. Those people probably are just the young people that are making no money, and are just angry. All they need to do is get some customers, and then you have real backup. That is me. I have over 75 customers, and have a small team. It has been a great supplemental income to myself and my family. As I pursue it further, it will grow for me, and I will do well. I focus on customer training, and that is how the business is supposed to be built.

Now, most people that come on here are trying to find a way to be negative. I am trying to help all of you to find a way to be logical. This company, as any MLM, can be very, very beneficial for you. This is coming from a doctor of gynecology. I have seen alot of network marketing companies in my time - from Mary kay, to Amway, to Primerica, and none have ever had the potential that this company has.

Regards,

Dr. B. Cortez

LoL at you "dr" cortez. you must be some dr if you need to slave away for hours on end for an extra "$1000-$2000" a month. maybe if you payed attention in medical school you'd be making more money. lol at a "doctor" who needs an extra $1k a month to make ends meet. oh but wait, your doing it for all that ass right? they got some nice ass there though. or is it the friends and the unique philosophy? you'd think someone who went to med school would have half a brain. LoL at "dr cortez" and his 1k.

I was first invited to a yor.com meeting by a friend of mine who was skeptical about the whole thing and needed a secound opinion. I sat there for 2 hours listening to nothing but testimonials, no facts about products or anything like that. I saw through the who scam.....But let me tell you, They have gorgeous chicks from all over. I mean asian, Spanish, black, you named it..... I did't join, but I certainly did networked with a few of those bangin chicks. To make the long story short, lets just say that old trojen in my wallet was replaced....lol.......

"Word of advice, simply go to any of these yor.com fools myspace page and look through their friends in order to find yourself a nice looking victim.

Just avoid it unless you want to lose money for nothing.

Yea i guess thats how it goes.Most people jus make things up to get people to jion. Its like its 90% to get new ppl and 10% product. Yea some of these ppl proboly have money but if your new you just feeding them. The people in the top get all the profits. So i guess yea the chicks show off espically to new people to get them in.

Don't brag too much. Those girls were dumb enough to join a cult after all. I'm willing to bet a large percentage have those big pretty deer in headlight eyes. Cults always do. Let's just say the bigger, the less going on in there. Like taking candy from a baby.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

LoL at you "dr" cortez. you must be some dr if you need to slave away for hours on end for an extra "$1000-$2000" a month. maybe if you payed attention in medical school you'd be making more money. lol at a "doctor" who needs an extra $1k a month to make ends meet. oh but wait, your doing it for all that ass right? they got some nice ass there though. or is it the friends and the unique philosophy? you'd think someone who went to med school would have half a brain. LoL at "dr cortez" and his 1k.

That IS funny!

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