yor.com/net fraud help pls get word out

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have only been with the company for a month and I keep hearing good and bad things about YOR so I like other people am skepticle from time to time. It's like anything else, you hear good and bad things about everything. You will probably hear more bad things because there are pissed off people who have nothing better to do than to complain. The people who are doing well with it are actually out learning about the industry and making money. Those of you who say it's a scam, how hard did you work to make money? Did you know that in order to see results in network marketing, you need to stick with the company for at least 5 years? It's like anything else, you have to work hard in the beginning and it will pay off in the end. There are companies out there that are pyramid schemes or scams, but those companies don't offer products. YOR definitely offers a service. I have not made my $390, but I know it's gonna pay off in one year. I have not recruited anyone yet, but I have plenty of customers who are very happy with the phone service. You have to have patience with it.

Huston.. we have an idiot on our hands...lol
yor have much to learn.. only a month and you think so highly...lol
another brainwashed fool...

"yor losses will be get"!!

2 pieces of advice....don;t quit your day job pleaseeee..... and do not try to recruit your best friend or close friends, because they will hate you after you come out of the bubble.

of course they will advise you to stick it out for 5yrs
so every year u are takin 12mths to make $390 back...which miiighhttt happen... and recertifying ....**read the fine prints**...paying again... and the cycle starts again...

i wish you luck... please feel free to leave "yor" input on this blog when u realize what you got into... 1mth lol

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

by now the ftc knows who dennis wong and michael mo is.
if they were to try and try again and never quit.
This will become legit in the america society.
One thing when one hole team is not making money is because do to the fact of the people that they hire. if you have a team of 20, and only 2 people is doing all the work. who do you think is getting paid out of the money that you make.
Havent you been to a job and your doing all the work and this other person is just playing around and you get the same pay. same thing.
People. business investment is never free. to be successful. you have to give and have returns. a good investment is to be able to be satisfied with what you give and recieve.
basically America is nown to be spoiled meaning they only want to recieve. All America want is just to be able to get up, sit on a chair and have money fall in their laps every day.
just ask yourself, for all that you gave this company. is it worth your time to earn that money?
If you go to there meetings and fully understand what they are doing then you will understand, it is legit.
the video CAN feel hypnotizing to the insecure. The ones who dont know how to ask questions and dont know how to do true research.
If you was not to understand an explanation or simply believing a stranger told you about something than that is not true understanding and not true research.
that means you never really understand what the company is about. What conumers are saying about the company. Who are yor.com's back ups in the markets.

About the video listen to the words of sick and tired of being sick and tired( lifting 100 lbs. after another).
If you say duhhhh. Then why are there so many people out there still doing it.
Another thing is after they tried so hard, they faild so many times. they tried and tried and one thing for sure is they never quit. They feel they found a solution to their problem of Multi-level-Market business, VOIP.
It is true they had a bad past in other MLM's, but i think a few things got out of there hands in that past.
Also, there last few words in the video tells you that they never quit
(Shall you too if you want to be successful).
Lets just say you found a job that pays you $40k a year and they told you that you could be making $50k next year when you get promoted.
Next year you did not get promoted. would you quit or would you continue to work harder for that position? Your words can speak loudly but one thing for sure is pay attention to your actions. what is your action that you would do in that situation.
This happens all over big job companies out there.
Ask of all people did this ever happen?????
Match pays in Yor.com If you train two new people to sign up. you get a bonus so called a match pay.
Have you ever worked for a company and they tell you "oh if you refer somebody to work here you can get a $200.00 bonus".?????
well do you want bonus money.

just ask some questions like these
What is the company about?
does the product work?
what ways to invest and make money?
Is there bonus money?
Does the cash flow up and down the pyramid meaning do you pay the company and does the company pay you back?
Who are there backups... like delta three etc.?
There manufacturers?
Is the product worth the value
meaning buying cheap sell for more or for residual?
What is the main focus of the company?
Do they have records of position and money flow like reciepts?
Where is this company located?
Are they noticed by the federal government?
Is yor.com paying federal taxes?
Is it an opportunity or did some one point a gun to your head to be in this?
How is the way you and the company work meaning do they give you everything free? Is everything free in the world of business?
Do you have to find costumers?
Did you quit?
Did someone say just by investing your money in this you become a millionier the next day?
If these few questions can all be answered than pretty much it is not a scam.... it should be legit???
One big resource to say is that they are listed in the Deltathree.com
just go to Deltathree.com
then go to News and Events.
The go to Press releases.
Then scroll the year to 2007 and enter to their 2007 press releases.
then some press releases would be there so now you scroll down to yor.com
or you should also see the date as 8/21/07 at 8:31 a.m.
I did this only so that you will know that I am not linking you to some sort of link page that has been modified.
or yet get Delta three phone number and call them.
If you feel you been scam or if you feel its a scam or if you feel that this could be a company to invest in then try to call them.
for all who reads this, correct me so we can have a better understanding of this company

last few things. some strangers talk smack but you dont know if they could be working for other competitors like example comcas or vonage or somebody. who knows. not that im targeting them directly. just a thought.
think about it.

this poster talks so much about "paying attention" that he/she should "pay attention" to their grammer!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

this poster talks so much about "paying attention" that he/she should "pay attention" to their grammer!

I see this guy has no better criticism than to point out a couple of grammar mistakes in a post that makes sense. Oh yes, it's spelled grammAr with an 'a' not an 'e.'

I recommend you read the quote in the post above because it does make sense. If it doesn't make sense to you, then do some more research because you probably didn't answer all the questions for yourself.

Just to let everyone know, with all great things there comes negativity. Do you think Bill Gates didn't get harassed and criticized for dropping out of Harvard University in order to start Microsoft? He went through a lot of crap, but he pulled through and was rewarded in the end.

If you thought getting rich was easy then everyone would be rich, wouldn't they? Nothing in life is get rich quick. You have to put a LOT of time and effort. People here who are complaining just weren't willing to put in the time and effort to see it through to the end or to do proper research.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I see this guy has no better criticism than to point out a couple of grammar mistakes in a post that makes sense. Oh yes, it's spelled grammAr with an 'a' not an 'e.'

I recommend you read the quote in the post above because it does make sense. If it doesn't make sense to you, then do some more research because you probably didn't answer all the questions for yourself.

Just to let everyone know, with all great things there comes negativity. Do you think Bill Gates didn't get harassed and criticized for dropping out of Harvard University in order to start Microsoft? He went through a lot of crap, but he pulled through and was rewarded in the end.

If you thought getting rich was easy then everyone would be rich, wouldn't they? Nothing in life is get rich quick. You have to put a LOT of time and effort. People here who are complaining just weren't willing to put in the time and effort to see it through to the end or to do proper research.

First of all, no one in Yor is rich. Not the founders... Not even close to what one would consider rich.

Secondly, how can you use Bill Gates as an example? He may have dropped out of Harvard but he was intelligent enough and had the grades to make it into Harvard in the first place. Which can NOT be said of any of the high school drop/college dropout/GED having, ignorant, losers that make up the overwhelming majority of Yor. Even those that have degrees (or claim to)have them from crappy schools.

The bottom line is this...you could work at McDonald's and still make more money than being in Yor. At least McDonald's pays you a salary. With Yor, you always have to SPEND money...for the website, for the seminars, for the trips, for the outdated box...you spend the money so that the inner circle can continue to make money off you.

Heck, you could pick up cans in the street and make more money!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I see this guy has no better criticism than to point out a couple of grammar mistakes in a post that makes sense. Oh yes, it's spelled grammAr with an 'a' not an 'e.'

I recommend you read the quote in the post above because it does make sense. If it doesn't make sense to you, then do some more research because you probably didn't answer all the questions for yourself.

Just to let everyone know, with all great things there comes negativity. Do you think Bill Gates didn't get harassed and criticized for dropping out of Harvard University in order to start Microsoft? He went through a lot of crap, but he pulled through and was rewarded in the end.

If you thought getting rich was easy then everyone would be rich, wouldn't they? Nothing in life is get rich quick. You have to put a LOT of time and effort. People here who are complaining just weren't willing to put in the time and effort to see it through to the end or to do proper research.

Notice how all these brained washed morons use false Logic to lie to themselves. Understand that yor.com or whatever they calls themselves now are master manipulators which prey on low-income, underprivileged, young students. Lets use some basic logic for the moron above. FACT: Yor has been found Guilty of illegal pyramiding by the F.T.C. FACT: Dennis Wong paid 400,000 as a settlement. if you would trust someone like that with your money would you also trust a convicted sexual predator with a 3 year old child.

If you wanna piss off a yor.com supporter just send them this youtube video....lol......

YouTube - Yor.com

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I see this guy has no better criticism than to point out a couple of grammar mistakes in a post that makes sense. Oh yes, it's spelled grammAr with an 'a' not an 'e.'

I recommend you read the quote in the post above because it does make sense. If it doesn't make sense to you, then do some more research because you probably didn't answer all the questions for yourself.

Just to let everyone know, with all great things there comes negativity. Do you think Bill Gates didn't get harassed and criticized for dropping out of Harvard University in order to start Microsoft? He went through a lot of crap, but he pulled through and was rewarded in the end.

If you thought getting rich was easy then everyone would be rich, wouldn't they? Nothing in life is get rich quick. You have to put a LOT of time and effort. People here who are complaining just weren't willing to put in the time and effort to see it through to the end or to do proper research.

I remember when i was in yor they fed me that same "Bill Gates" bs story to motivate me, which also motivated college students to drop out, quit their jobs, and move out of their homes...

All you are doing is helping Dennis's dream a reality.. false claims... "Dennis wong is a millionaire...soon to become a billionaire"..."wouldn't you want to be like this guy?" lol... pure bs... noone even heard about Dennis Wong faget ass til the F.T.C blew him up. He paid the settlement of $400,000/$10,000,000... wow.. and he's gona be a "B"illionaire?... y couldnt he just pay the whole fine?

"Yor.com A customer acqusition company"....
only since the FTC case...they decided to have a customer rep ratio 2:1 n now 3:1... which is not/rearly practiced by reps... they advise you to sign up as a fake customer using your credit card...hence 1 customer... other 2 most likely family or like what they practiced again... fake sign up... make a fake customer account... and then cancel it.. so in this case.. guess what??... "MATCH"... you're a CT (certified) most/average reps have 1 customer, being themselves. Vonage took over the VoIP industry a long time ago (not factual, but analytically speaking)...these boxes yor has are outdated. The point of them making the 2:1 ratio or 3:1 ratio is to aviod suspicion of a pyramid... but the fake sign up is still a known issue (fact)!!

New reps are often clouded and bombarded with all these claims and money gossip, that they too forget their own principles, see thier goals as the most important thing in their life, let the claims govern them, and worship "people"... "omg did you see Johnny Ly's new car?" lol.. NO its not his... its called "LEASED!!!" ...

Reps often look down on society and create a place in their mind, that they, are better than the world, and more well off, not realizing that they are not making a dime, and spending all their time and money in this company. "BRAINWASHED" ...(speaking from experience)

when you start asking questions and do research .. you will soon discover that these people are straight up liars, fakes, frauds, money hungry ghools lol... i really don't blame the lower reps because hypnosis is real, but for the ones who already know what is going on... thumbs down to you for being a part of this disaster. I HOPE THE FTC DROPS A MISSLE ON THE "EXPANSION HOUSE"...lol...

thanks for reading...

hmmm...looks questionable to me

see what your state attorney general has to say about it!!

I simply believe that a company that is supposedly well established on the west coast and has goals in expanding business on the east coast shouldn't do interviews in a MALLS FOOD COURT. If your established then the company should have the means to set up offices. they say the reason is b/c they are internet based, but it stills doesn't fool me. they basicly want you to SELL thier product. when i told the guy that i had to think it over he offered me a info kit that i had to PAY $20 for. and when i was going to leave he told me not to talk about their company b/c i really have not learned about them b/c they work through word of mouth. Like everyone else said its a total SCAMMMM!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I simply believe that a company that is supposedly well established on the west coast and has goals in expanding business on the east coast shouldn't do interviews in a MALLS FOOD COURT. If your established then the company should have the means to set up offices. they say the reason is b/c they are internet based, but it stills doesn't fool me. they basicly want you to SELL thier product. when i told the guy that i had to think it over he offered me a info kit that i had to PAY $20 for. and when i was going to leave he told me not to talk about their company b/c i really have not learned about them b/c they work through word of mouth. Like everyone else said its a total SCAMMMM!!!!!!!!!

Do you remember the guy's name who you spoke to? and the location of the interview? I'm trying to pin point who did that through past experience dealing with them... $20 for info... hell ****ing no... thats to make money by any means... i work online all day doing research.. and i'm in an office... so an interview for an internet based business is total none sense, all/most companies operate via internet in this day and age. They still conduct formal interviews... not in malls food courts and starbucks...