YOR Health = Scam

It's so sad how these young, somewhat educated kids fall for this company's sales pitch. They're flushing their money and time down the drain.

They all have the same robotic lines that they just repeat over and over when questioned, they can't go off script or delve any deeper than the propaganda that they've been fed.

They may start out hawking the "product" but are soon indoctinated into building their own little pyramids. There's no money in selling the product, just in recruiting others to work below you. It's got to be a painful learning curve- throwing away money at an "investment in their future" and alienating the people who they try to recruit who end up disillusioned.

I think it takes a special kind of naivete to fall for a scam like this. There's a reason why this company has to reinvent itself every few years. There's a reason why pyramid schemes are illegal.

All the crap they are fed about being independently wealthy, not needing an education to excel, investing time and money in this web of lies is pathetic. If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is folks.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Incredible. So you think that by a company changing its name, means that the government will just throw they're hands up and say, "oh crap, we lost em!" If that's the case you're arguing, why didn't Enron do this? Perfect reason why we shouldn't listen to other people, they don't research information before they make accusations that impose the idea, and probably the fact, that they are among the more stupid, and overwhelmingly ignorant individuals in this country. Another person says, "they're like certified robots, they think they know everything and you can't express yourself. They always say "this is the best company" BULL ****!! their comp plan is the WORST comp plan in the whole network marketing industry and their approach keep them from growing to a successful company." What do you know of the comp plan? How many other comp plans have you seen? How do they compare to the one used at YOR Health? And the methods make for rapid growth, but YOR Health, the health side that is, has only been around for a year and half, what big business has gotten itself national recognition in as little time as a year? If you know tell me, i love getting new, factual, evidence. Show me an article on it and then I can believe it, show me what you think is a better comp plan and the business its in. Don't tell me, SHOW ME where you found it and i'll check it out. Yet another flacid, pissed off shell of a human that doesn't have what he wants, nor is making any progress towards getting it, trying to condescend a process that others are taking, as though it will worsen their lives, just because he can't be happy in his own. This type of crap is pathetic, and i only pity you people that whine about YOR Health, just because it's a different approach to making money. Yea its different, because its a business, running a business to make money is a lot different than working a job. There's security and insurance at a job, but you don't make enough to be comfortable and happy. There's no security and no insurance at running or owning a business, there's a lot of risk involved, there's a lot of money to invest into it, but that's the path to making true monetary income. Bill Gates is a prime example! Why do people listen to other people that haven't got a clue as to what they're talking about?

You sound just like all the other Yor Health robots. I'm sorry you've drank the kool-aid. When you realize that you've wasted money and time on this "company" I hope you still have friends and a potential future.

There are legit start up companies that take risks and have novel approaches to operating in this economy. But Yor Health is not one of them.

Your "arguments" and ignorance are pathetic. If you did YOUR RESEARCH you would know that Enron has changed the name of several of it's subsidiaries. Just google Enron and Name Change and read all about it. Or better yet, google Yor Health and Scam and see how many entries pop up.

[YOR CORP OFFICE]

Originally Posted by Unregistered Hey ummmm isnt your company suppose to promote a good well living...Go ahead and do research look it up in the FDA website, and i bet that you wont find none of these products.[/

Thank you for posting your concerns. We do ask that you read through all posts before replying as some issues you are posting have been addressed. We also remind you to please thoroughly research anything that you post as fact.

Originally Posted by Unregistered oh n also u dont need no special "vitamins" or "Meal supplement" to be healthy, all you need is a healthy diet and a well balanced diet. Now with the meal supplement i read that it is not FDA or ADA approved, and if its not then obviously the FDA rules are not beigned followed, after August 24th 2007. Is that product really safe for the consumers??? because if its not then innocent people are going to expirience kindey failure, cardiovascular disorders and seizures. So yeah it is up to you wheter you want to consume this product.

These issues were already addressed in an earlier post. Again, we do ask before statements are made that further research is done to confirm the accuracy of speculations. FDA protocol states that it is not their responsibility to review and approve or disapprove dietary supplements before they reach the consumer. The manufacturers of any dietary supplement are responsible for following GMP guidelines. Our original post on this issue is quoted below:

According to the FDA website under the Overview of Dietary Supplements, it states: “Unlike drug products that must be proven safe and effective for their intended use before marketing, there are no provisions in the law for FDA to "approve" dietary supplements for safety or effectiveness before they reach the consumer.”
“…The FDA has limited resources to analyze the composition of food products, including dietary supplements. It focuses these resources first on public health emergencies and products that may have caused injury or illness.” Overview of Dietary Supplements

As part of the FDA’s regulations, there are guidelines set for the labeling of dietary supplements, one of which is to include the statement:

“This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.”

You will find this same exact statement on the bottle or website of every other dietary supplement whether it is on the shelves of any store across the country or sold online provided that they are following FDA regulations. For additional reading visit the Council for Responsible Nutrition website: Council for Responsible Nutrition

Our products are manufactured in manufacturing plants that have GMP certificates and our products go through multiple cross-examinations by third party laboratories. Each product is evaluated with specific tests for purity and quality such as micro-analysis, heavy metal testing, and antioxidant capacity.

If by meal supplement you are referring to our MRP Meal Replacement, well it is considered a Food Supplement and we have the FDA disclaimer on the packaging because of the labeling rules set by the FDA. The rules for labeling a Food Supplement require the statement when you make structure function statements, or benefit statements about the product. Again, you will find this same statement on the bottles and packaging of all other dietary supplements and food supplements that make structure function statements.

“This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease,” DOES NOT mean that the FDA disapproves of the statement or product either. This is simply an FDA required statement because they do not have the resources to monitor every product on the market, and is not in reference to the product itself, but rather the statements on the product.


In regard to your concern about the American Dietetic Association, they do not monitor dietary supplements either. They oversee and regulate the practices of dieticians in the U.S.

The American Dietetic Association is the world’s largest organization of food and nutrition professionals. ADA is committed to improving the nation’s health and advancing the profession of dietetics through research, education and advocacy. www.eatright.com

Mission Statement
The Commission on Dietetic Registration (CDR), the credentialing agency for the ADA, protects the public through credentialing and assessment processes that assure the competence of registered dietitians and dietetic technicians, registered. Commission on Dietetic Registration - About CDR

Originally Posted by Unregistered Go ahead and do research look it up in the FDA website, and i bet that you wont find none of these products.

You are absolutely correct; if you do research and look it up on the FDA website, you will not find any of our products there, nor will you find any other dietary supplements neither. In fact you will find that other “safe” products are not approved by FDA either, such as infant formula or cosmetics.

FDA does not approve dietary supplements.
Unlike new drugs, dietary supplements are not reviewed and approved by FDA based on their safety and effectiveness...After dietary supplements are on the market, FDA evaluates their safety through research and adverse event monitoring. Is It Really FDA Approved?

FDA does not approve structure-function claims on dietary supplements and other foods.
Structure-function claims on dietary supplements carry a disclaimer stating that the claim has not been reviewed by FDA, and that the product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Conventional foods are not required to carry such a disclaimer. Is It Really FDA Approved?

[YOR CORP OFFICE]

Originally Posted by Unregistered Hey I went on this website, and apparently you don’t have basic reading comprehension....check it out yourself heres the same website... JAMA -- Abstract: Vitamins for Chronic Disease Prevention in Adults: Clinical Applications, June 19, 2002, Fletcher and Fairfield 287 (23): 3127

You are absolutely correct, scurvy and beriberi are uncommon in Western societies, and yes the U.S. is a western society. But, if you continue reading the rest of the article, you will find that neither scurvy nor beriberi are mentioned ever again in the entire article. They are mentioned as a pre-face to lead into the following statement that begins with the word “however” which also happens to be the main point of the article.

-"However, suboptimal intake of some vitamins, above levels causing classic vitamin deficiency, is a risk factor for chronic diseases and common in the general population, especially the elderly."

suboptimal intake of some vitamins, (meaning getting the below the optimal amount of some vitamins)

above levels causing classic vitamin deficiency, (meaning beyond what has been determined to cause a basic vitamin deficiency)

Originally Posted by Unregistered Heres another thing that you should do when you are trying to support your argument “Read the whole article.” The quoted words are against your argument, “Physicians should make specific efforts to learn about their patients' use of vitamins to ensure that they are taking vitamins they should, such as folate supplementation for women in the childbearing years, and avoiding dangerous practices such as high doses of vitamin A during pregnancy or massive doses of fat-soluble vitamins at any age.” According to my understanding vitamins are vital but, before you take anything you should consult a doctor, because you don’t know how you would react to vitamins that are not FDA approved.

Before making accusations that we have not “read the whole article”, we do ask the same of those making arguments and statements as facts.

The quoted words actually support our Company Policy that suggests you consult a physician before using our products, or any other dietary supplements. Its purpose is to make sure our customers are educated in their decision making. Your physician will be able to tell you which vitamins, minerals, and nutrients you may be deficient in, therefore informing you as to which supplements would be right for you.

If you take a look at the labels of our products you will find a similar statement, suggesting that you consult your physician before use.

In regards to the following:

Originally Posted by Unregistered because you don’t know how you would react to vitamins that are not FDA approved.

This is a perfect example of a misconception, the reason being, as we’ve stated before, no dietary supplements (vitamins) are FDA approved. The FDA does not regulate or approve dietary supplements as the do Food and Drugs.

Again, we ask that you please do further research to confirm your speculations before you post any statements as facts. These issues were already addressed in an earlier post.

Originally Posted by YOR CORP OFFICE Thank you for your post. A response to your post will be made shortly.

where is the answer to this?

i live n boston nd i totally agree with this they tried to get me to go to the meeting but i did sum research on them and saw this nd i wuld like to thank u for posting this b/c now i wont go

my friend is so stubborn that i can't get her to leave yorhealth. i kept telling her it's a scam. she hasn't been making any money from this. these so call meetings she goes to doesn't even benefit her. constantly traveling between NY and NJ. she did try to make me go for the one in Boston but as a friend i said F*** NO~! It's not even FDA approve. Those people are so shady too. I swear I think she's so gullible.

She quote:
"you said it was a scam.. But I know for sure its not.. Cause if it is a scam, this company (YORHealth.com) would've been gone long time ago.. We wouldn't be running still.."

*face palm* people can easily have scam websites. i told her they are suppose to invest in you, not the opposite. i know 'cause i used to be a outside sales representative introducing legit products. when she first join she quickly bought the $400 stuff. i'm like wtf!? don't even try to bring up the Testimonials.

i told her in exact words:
"YOR does not make any claim that such experiences are typical or are indicative of future performance or success of using one of their products."

Funny. I pretty much quoted YOR.

The whole time, did you actually took the time to learn about the products? ask questions about it? or you just focused about being a scam because people told you so, o read about it and you just got bored at the meeting?

If this was the board of directors of gnc years ago when they first started, and they were looking for big time investors. Do you think you will have a chance to get involved? Be fortunate that at least you have a chance to get involved on this industry. Have you done your research from credible sources? I hope you did ,Dont expect everything to be done for you specially if you planing to have your own business. Do you have to get trained? do you have to pay for training? What do you think? How come you dont complaint when you spend thousands of dollars in college tuition to get a degree and ended up working in something totally different and dont get paid enough? ANd you know what in talking about, you can ask most of your friends

What you have to understand is that The company is different from the individual. Remenber, is your own company, is like you have a franchise and you have to find the way to distribute the products. Since most of us dont have the millions like GNC and big time companies to endorse celebrities and do mass advertising on television , the only way for us is to do MLM. Yes ! word of mouth. Unfortunally some people dont do it the right way. Sometimes they force people because they try to make a sale, or dont explain the compensation plan correctly.

If you smart , creative and want a change. Then join, and do it the right way.Do the researh about the products, who backs them up? i can tell you they are unique and work Is like GNC is giving you their products and brand name for you to use it , sell and make some money ( which of course will never happen unless you invest a million and open up a franchise). Guess what? YOU do it right then. While other people do it wrong. Find the people in the company that are doing it the correct way, and learn from them.

Yes, this is coming from someone that hardly speak any english years ago, with horrible grammar as you can see drop out from college and decided to open my own business in real estate at 21 yrs. Im now 31 and doing well. I opened up a real estate company, work with investors and looking to jump into other ventures. And YOR is one of them.


Personally , i don't offer the business opportunity at the begining. I tried the products and worked for me. I share the products and people love them. ANd most of the times people ask me " Can you make money with this?" People come to me i don't need to sell. WHY? they tried the products and it helped them. Focus in the products first! learn about them.

All this is Just an advice. I just hate see people missing out on opportunities like this. At the end is your decision.

Good luck my friend! and for all of you reading all i say is do you research from credible sources.

Jose P

Originally Posted by Unregistered The whole time, did you actually took the time to learn about the products? ask questions about it? or you just focused about being a scam because people told you so, o read about it and you just got bored at the meeting? If this was the board of directors of gnc years ago when they first started, and they were looking for big time investors. Do you think you will have a chance to get involved? Be fortunate that at least you have a chance to get involved on this industry. Have you done your research from credible sources? I hope you did ,Dont expect everything to be done for you specially if you planing to have your own business. Do you have to get trained? do you have to pay for training? What do you think? How come you dont complaint when you spend thousands of dollars in college tuition to get a degree and ended up working in something totally different and dont get paid enough? ANd you know what in talking about, you can ask most of your friends What you have to understand is that The company is different from the individual. Remenber, is your own company, is like you have a franchise and you have to find the way to distribute the products. Since most of us dont have the millions like GNC and big time companies to endorse celebrities and do mass advertising on television , the only way for us is to do MLM. Yes ! word of mouth. Unfortunally some people dont do it the right way. Sometimes they force people because they try to make a sale, or dont explain the compensation plan correctly. Jose P

funny, you guys said the same thing about your dial up internet service. "Since most of us dont have the millions like AOL and big time companies to endorse celebrities and do mass advertising on television, the only way for us is to do MLM!" you also said the same thing about your VOIP service. " Since most of us dont have the millions like VONAGE and big time companies to endorse celebrities and do mass advertising on television, the only way for us is to do MLM!" what happened to those businesses? why the hell are you selling "health products" now? don't give us the bull**** excuse of how the former leaders mismanaged things. you only get to use that excuse once. btw, your leaders are still the same people!

we spent thousands of dollars and countless wasted hours to "have a chance to get involved" only to have you guys pull the plug. how long did each business last? barely 5 years? those of us who never saw any returns were accused of not working hard enough. i worked my ****ing ass off, so where the hell is my money?!

the sad thing is that there are so many that have invested so much time and energy into this, that are so deep into this joke of a company that they have nowhere else to go. no matter how many times 2by2, ixp, or yor changes outfits, they will be right there with them. why? because this is all they know. they have no other skills. they need this. this pays for their chicken coops in palisades park. otherwise they would be living out in the street because they have no REAL friends or family and because people in the real world hate their guts. yes i'm talking about you joshua lau, ryan jackson, adriana gomez (btw you are NOT sexy), johnny ly, chester leung (does mousey want some cheese?), angely rojas you are the MASTER of fooling people with your myspace pics. i thought yor health products were supposed to clear your skin! (www . youtube . com/watch?v=HjzdDnj4Wek)
alexia vento you are decent looking what are you doing with that retarded looking dude
yaniris abreu you are young and actually cute so i hope u do something useful with your life. please don't make babies with the guy you are with. unless you want to have jason kidd's son (www . southcn . com/sports/star5/kidd/200411031182_827027.jpg) your alien offspring would rip you apart.

btw all hail the mayor of munchkinland, your god, michael mo

Originally Posted by Unregistered All this is Just an advice. I just hate see people missing out on opportunities like this. At the end is your decision. Good luck my friend! and for all of you reading all i say is do you research from credible sources. Jose P

btw please hang yourself