YOR Health = Scam

[YOR CORP OFFICE]

Originally Posted by Unregistered Okay I am the same person commenting on being a nurse… …Oh, and being a nurse, I know that nobody needs dietary supplements, because you get your nutrients from foods that you eat anyways, and taking a dietary supplement causes you to get EXCESS nutrients, Which puts strain on your kidneys…

Thank you for stating your concerns. As we stated in a previous post, we do ask that before accusations are made and posted as “facts” that further research is done to confirm these statements.

According to a large-scale poll taken in the U.S. and reported in Document #264 of the U.S. Senate states that “99% of the American people are deficient in vitamins and minerals. Deficiency in any one of the important minerals results in health deterioration.”
http://www.senate.gov/reference/reso...miraclemen.pdf

Countless reports in various Medical Journals state that a deficiency of certain vitamins is a risk factor for poor health, and is a common problem among the general population. One review from The Clinician’s Corner in the Journal of the American Medical Association entitled: Vitamins for Chronic Disease Prevention in Adults states that: “Most people do not consume an optimal amount of all vitamins by diet alone. Pending strong evidence of effectiveness from randomized trials, it appears prudent for all adults to take vitamin supplements.”
JAMA -- Abstract: Vitamins for Chronic Disease Prevention in Adults: Clinical Applications, June 19, 2002, Fletcher and Fairfield 287 (23): 3127

Originally Posted by Unregistered …You don't have to sell a scammy product…

Can you please specify what you consider to be a “scammy product”? Our products are manufactured in manufacturing plants that have GMP certificates and our products go through multiple cross-examinations by third party laboratories. Each product is evaluated with specific tests for purity and quality such as micro-analysis, heavy metal testing, and antioxidant capacity. Additionally the Council for Responsible Nutrition reports that more than 150 million Americans take dietary supplements annually. Council for Responsible Nutrition

Originally Posted by Unregistered …Oh, and I doubt this supplement is FDA approved or anything, and hasn't been around enough to see long term effects of using it...so who knows, it could even GIVEyoucancer for all you dumb "followers" know! Most supplements reak havoc on people's organs…

Again, we do ask before statements are made that further research is done to confirm the accuracy of speculations. FDA protocol states that it is not their responsibility to review and approve or disapprove dietary supplements before they reach the consumer.

According to the FDA website under the Overview of Dietary Supplements, it states: “Unlike drug products that must be proven safe and effective for their intended use before marketing, there are no provisions in the law for FDA to "approve" dietary supplements for safety or effectiveness before they reach the consumer.”
“…The FDA has limited resources to analyze the composition of food products, including dietary supplements. It focuses these resources first on public health emergencies and products that may have caused injury or illness.” Overview of Dietary Supplements

As part of the FDA’s regulations, there are guidelines set for the labeling of dietary supplements, one of which is to include the statement:

“This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.”

You will find this same exact statement on the bottle or website of every other dietary supplement whether it is on the shelves of any store across the country or sold online provided that they are following FDA regulations. For additional reading visit the Council for Responsible Nutrition website: Council for Responsible Nutrition

Originally Posted by Unregistered …and hasn't been around enough to see long term effects of using it...so who knows, it could even GIVEyoucancer for all you dumb "followers" know! Most supplements reak havoc on people's organs.

The reason why the FDA does not ultilize its’ resources to monitor nutraceuticals prior to consumer sales is because dietary supplements have been determined a minute risk, in comparison to the drug industry. According to data collected from the FDA’s Adverse Event Reporting System (AERS), and reported in a study in the September 10th issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine - 89,842 incidents of serious injuries, disabilities, and deaths were related to the use of prescribed medications in 2005. These results marked a 2.6x increase from the number of drug induced adverse events reported just 7 years prior (34,966 incidents). Dramatic Jump Found in Medication-Related Deaths -- Daly 42 (19): 8 -- Psychiatr News

A similarly structured study assessing adverse events related to dietary supplements was conducted by The Department of Global Regulatory Affairs and Safety in collaboration with the FDA Center for Food Safety and Nutrition. Together, the two departments conducted a 1-year surveillance study of dietary supplement related poison control center calls in 2006. The results showed that out of 275 dietary supplement calls only 41% experienced negative symptoms, while 1/3 of the calls were found not to be linked to dietary supplements after all; and the remaining 2/3rds were rated as only possibly linking to dietary supplements. Only 8 adverse events required hospital administration. The conclusion of the study stated: “Most supplement-related adverse events were minor.” Dietary supplement adverse events: report of a one...[J Med Toxicol. 2008] - PubMed Result

For those that don't know let me draw a picture of how this company came about

2by2.net -> IXP.net -> Yor.net -> Yor Health

This is the same person that started 2by2 that is using the same MLM system and changing its image to sucker more people.

Be smart. when people offer you an opportunity that sounds too good to be true.. you bet your ass it is.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Reading this whole entire forum. Two words come to mind. Cult and brainwashed. Are you sure it's not because you are trying to hide the scam???? Obviously no one is listening to you in this forum. I don't know why you keep going on and on with promoting it on here and trying to convince and PRETEND that you are listening to people and going to do something about our bad experiences... For all we know you are probably not even from the Corp office. If you are, it would be smart to show some proof anyways. ANd if you guys so strongly agree in the scam, why would we listen to you anyways, when it is a scam. WHoever this Dennis Wong guy is, obviously did this the first time and got caught, so why would anyways trust him again unless they were "brainwashed" like the followers you all have who didn't research Yor Health before they got drawn in and brainwashed! If any of those people did their research before they got drawn in, there wouldnt be anyone following your brainwashing. But however, it may be a good thing, cuz then Dennis Wong will probably get put in jain eventually, after ruining people's life, so they say! I am the one who was talking about the bridal show and stuff. I definately am NOT interested. I thought I was, but reading this forum has definately shown me that I am better off sticking with my college degree on this one. I am so glad I never called that representative back, and I think if she keeps calling me, I will most likely tell her off and it's all over the internet that Yor Health is a SCAM. Dude, I am so peeved after reading this whole forum that I would like to see Yor Health go outta business. I'm like hooked.

By they time they go out of business they'll have a new marketing name that the same people that are in this company transition to. They're a few steps ahead. once the government is on to them for some investigation they quickly change name or a different brand before the can get caught.

My question is how in the world are you supposed to bash a legit company if you can't even use proper grammar?! It's "WERE" dumbass. Go back to school and learn that it's called "network marketing" not a pyramid scam. If you'd checked instead of *****ing on this forum then you'd know that it has "A" rating by the better business bureau and there is an address.

Originally Posted by YOR CORP OFFICE According to a large-scale poll taken in the U.S. and reported in Document #264 of the U.S. Senate states that “99% of the American people are deficient in vitamins and minerals. Deficiency in any one of the important minerals results in health deterioration.” http://www.senate.gov/reference/reso...miraclemen.pdf

Whoever gave you that link to the miracle men document was playing a trick on you. Maybe find someone more qualified to read it for you. It's not marketing hype but it is from before enrichment, rotation and other processes were created. It inspired quite a few changes in agriculture by explaining the depletion of minerals in reused crop soils and has a good explanation of why supplements can't be broken down enough for assimilation by the digestive system. We had to grow healthier fruits and vegetables.

True. The YOR health products are developed in labs by organic chemists and all kinds of people with fancy degrees so they are safe as long as the directions are followed. The FDA would step in if any products were deemed unsafe.

What upsets the FDA the most or any professionals that care about human life are the claims of curing diseases, viruses, cancer or anything else, along with turning them away from modern medicine (like what you're doing) because on many accounts people who could have been treated with real medicine have been brainwashed and turned to these 'alternative cures' and died as a result. The charges for such marketing should be no less than manslaughter. The most deaths which could have been averted are caused by people not seeking medical attention.

Same sites, but the articles don't work in your favor.
'Miracle' Health Claims: Add a Dose of Skepticism
JAMA -- Abstract: Essential Nutrients: Food or Supplements?: Where Should the Emphasis Be?, July 20, 2005, Lichtenstein and Russell 294 (3): 351
Why Are We Taken In By Duplicity? -- Arehart-Treichel 39 (6): 62 -- Psychiatr News
Adverse events associated with dietary supplements...[Lancet. 2003] - PubMed Result
http://docnews.diabetesjournals.org/content/4/3/6.full

Stay tuned for the obligatory brainwashed "medicine is a scam" outburst.

Originally Posted by Unregistered Thank you. What led to the decisions to rebrand the company name? What happened to YOR VOICE? How did did YOR VOICE perform financially?

no answer to this?

I went to this Seminar yesterday Sunday June 28th in Manhattan NYC .. where Johnny Ly gives his speech, they made me pay 12.00$ to get in the room..
at the 40 minutes. brake, I had an interview or whatever it calls, with the best friend of Johnny Ly, I don't even remember his name but after he explained me everything he said "Okay now you are ready to sign up and fill up the application".. (My friend, who took me to this place) was taking notes while this representative was explaining me the whole thing, so when my friend gave me the application he never mentioned before that I had to pay 50$ for the membership plus a credit card or debit card is required.. then I told my friend I do not have a Credit card and not even a debit card.. (Of course I was lying because I do have a debit card) so he goes, "if you don't have any of them then you can just pay cash"... ha ha COME ON!!! That was one of the stupid things that they said to me and they were accumulating it since I got to the place.. Obviously they were really urged to make me part of the scam.. the funny part is that they all repeat the same BS. for Example; (I see my self in two years with a very good income.. waking up at 11 or 12 in the morning.. without thinking on debts etc etc)... they have like a favorite Phrase or line .. >>>"Does that make sense"?<<< loll O.M.G they all love saying that.

One of the Techniques that they have to brainwash people.. is to speak with a high Diplomatic vocabulary adding so much Philosophy on their speeches.
I have some observations too, I think Johnny Ly's Lamborghini is just part of the Image that he represents.. I don't think is his car.. maybe yea but maybe the company gave it to him. He also came to the room with bodyguards escorting him.. I think is just BS, part of the Image that he has to represent (an important Business guy) oh WOW
I hate that they made me waste 5 Hours of my Life listening and paying attention to Garbage!!! I'm sorry but i have to say it.. they make people look like idiots and manipulated soldiers

With So much Love And Respect Johnny Ly You Are Gay Man!!!

Originally Posted by YOR CORP OFFICE The short length of your post describing such an unsettling event that you then sign “sincerely” leads us to believe that you were not genuine in your statement. Using such a tragic occurrence in this manner belittles anyone who has lost someone they care about in such a terrible way. However, if there is a compliance issue that you feel that Mr. Vo has violated we invite you to please contact us.

Hey ummmm isnt your company suppose to promote a good well living, and they are suppose to care a lot about peoples health.Well i was informed this according to the interview that i went to at a local starbucks with one of your "important" representatives. Now i just found out that this has all been a lie. I was talked about the main pandemic diseases that are affecting people and im aware that depression is one of them. By your inept comments i belive that is B.S. because that person may be depressed, because of the current death of a loved one. Your comment really shows how much you care by judging the comments of that person, speacially when its about something as serious as a death caused by suicide. Thank your company for contibuting to another statistic to the third leading cause of deaths in the U.S. oh and sincerely is used in almost all letters by everyone, so how does that make that person genuine.....oh n also u dont need no special "vitamins" or "Meal supplement" to be healthy, all you need is a healthy diet and a well balanced diet. Now with the meal supplement i read that it is not FDA or ADA approved, and if its not then obviously the FDA rules are not beigned followed, after August 24th 2007. Is that product really safe for the consumers??? because if its not then innocent people are going to expirience kindey failure, cardiovascular disorders and seizures. So yeah it is up to you wheter you want to consume this product. Go ahead and do research look it up in the FDA website, and i bet that you wont find none of these products.

Even though I'm happy to have been able to find this forum, it seems that this company attracts many young individuals who don't know much about network marketing or even have an entrepreneurial spirit. I'm a budding entrepreneur and I got myself involved with a network marketing business. My website is 24hourtour.net/communityhelpers. We don't hide anything, and you can really earn some cash. This forum seems to have some people who are english majors, due to the fact that their correcting someone's grammar. Not only that but, some upset folks getting cheated out of their money are involved in this forum also. But the blame goes towards the person that just let their money go to some opportunity that wasnt researched on in the first place.
To begin any network marketing business you first have to understand network marketing; pretty much you will constantly be on your phone, and the brainwashed part is mainly submitting yourself to your work. There is nothing wrong with that at all, how do you think Bill Gates did it. Donald Trump a self-made millionaire, is currently working on his own network marketing business, he sees the potential and many others see the potential in it also. We've done network marketing subconsciously, when we tell our friends about our hot new car, which will cause them to want to get your car also or something similar. You won't get paid anything for actually bringing in revenue to a dealership that only know you as a customer. But now some dealerships are doing that, to where you get incentives for referrring someone to their dealership. That is sort of an analogy of how network marketing works. Google makes a living off of it. You look of cheap golf clubs on google.com, and as soon as you click the site, boom, google.com get a clickfee.
You will get financial security if you work for it. A scam is illegal, and the business that is scamming will automatically be terminated, especially if global marketing is involved. There are many regulations that deal harshly with scams. A pyramid scheme is not a scam. If it was then many CEO's would be fired. It goes to show that we don't really pick up anything from our education. You have the top, middle, laborers; the payscale works the same. I just hope that people can see that there is potential in these network marketing business, you should try finding one that suits you.
- This post was written to enlighten some folks who downplay network marketing businesses and don't really understand the difference between a scam and a pyramid scheme. When unemployment comes knocking on your door, where are you gonna hide to. There's no real facts until what you know suits you, and who wouldn't mind having a group of other random people agree with your notion. If an Amway Rep or Mary K rep comes knocking on your door, what will you tell them???

I just wasted a night at one of these events. Last week, I was minding my own business, reading a book at Starbucks, and very attractive woman began a conversation with me. I should have known something was strange when she mentioned I was good at networking and offered me here magazine on her company. Stupid me, I thought she was just a nice girl and that was something that would help me remember her.

So I called her a week later and invited her out for a drink. She said she was busy but wished she could go and mentioned 230 Fifth, a rooftop lounge, as a place she would have liked to go. Apparently this is a place a lot of her "friends" go to. Beware. Anyway, she suggests Thursday night instead. I was initially supposed to meet her at 11 PM, but she asked me to attend a networking event with her. Again, stupid me for not researching her company. I wasn't going to say no- this woman is gorgeous.

Once I'm there I immediately realize it's a scam. Pretty much the same thing other posters have mentioned. For a while I was intrigued by the whole mulilevel marketing thing- I'd never really understood it before. If I ever want to scam people into buying crap, I now know what to do. So I did learn something.

It really is a cult; all the people are "friends" and have known each other for years. They live with each other and vacation together. Not a single person can actually explain what they do on the day to day. I guess they've all made so much that they've retired. I spoke with several representatives and they all thought they were so great. Most were non college grads, which was a big no no sign for an Ivy League grad like myself.

While I did waste a night, I'm interested to see where this goes though. It was quite amusing and that girl is very attractive. We went out for drinks afterward. Has anyone experienced that? Is she trying to make me her "friend" for more brainwashing and networking attempts? Or can I take this girl out somewhere and expect to get anywhere without joining up?

Don't waste your time with this crap.