MI supervised visitation

if it was so ordered that my child be supervised by her grandparents for the first 4 visits with her father do i have to leave my child there if the grandparents will not be there the entire duration of the visit? the other question is if he has a suspended license do i have to allow her to go when he comes to pick her up by himself?

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Only licensed and insured drivers may transport a child (that's fairly typical wording). Under no circumstances should you allow an unlicensed driver to transport your child.

How do you know his parents won't be there? If they are there when you drop off the child, you need to drop your child off. If they are not there when you get back, you need to talk to an attorney. If they tell you "We will be leaving at 2" state you will be there at two to pick up your child - or ask if they can drop off the child when they leave.


Supervised for 4 visits? Kinda odd. Maybe the parents are happy with how their son is doing and didn't think twice about leaving.

the court ordred that they be there on his visits every other weekend until christmas which is 4 visits. Her grandmother was aware of the fact that she was to be there and said she would but said she wouldnt be there when she was at work i guess my question is do they have to be there the entire time from time i drop her off till the time she gets dropped off to me if they notify me they will not be there his entire weekend with her do i have to leave her there. if he takes her anywhere do they either grandparent have to accompany

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Is the grandfather there? Has the father shown a history of no care or dangerous behaviours towards the child? How long is it that it is unsupervised? Do you feel your child is truely in danger if the father is alone with her?

If so, contact your attorney.

Technically if no one else is there it is a violation of the order if supervision is required. If you want to push the issue, even if you don't fear for your childs safety, you could push it.

If not...try to relax.

Maybe...though I'm not sure...if you KNOW that no one is there and supervision is required, you could call the police to have them check on the child. As court ordered supervised visits are required and you understand he is not obeying court orders - and you are concerned about the childs safety. I'd truely do this ONLY if you are SERIOUSLY concerned about his safety.

my concern is the lack of seeing her for the past year and a half im not sure if he really wants anything to do with her im worried about the emotional damage he could cause he most of all i blame myself i left him because he was abusive towards me but not towards her i always stood in the way she is only 5 she knows how to use a phone i might just be overly concerned and protective he only filed for visitation after the FIA made me file for support because i recieve goverment insurance on her otherwise im sure he would have never bothered with her he is using this to get back at me but i dont want her to be stuck in the middle and for her sake i hope it is geniune the judge/referee did not care about anything i had to say im not in it for the money i could care less i worry about her and her safety the grandfather will be there the entire time next visit im just worried if he takes her anywhere do the grandfather have to go with

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what's her reaction? Keep your voice positive, don't sound worried or she'll sound worried. Be excited. It's a good thing...You have to convince yourself this and maybe someday you'll see it is.

She's old enough to tell you if there's a problem. Try to assume this is the greatest thing in the world for her (or almost). Never know - it may turn out to be so. Even if he and her never form a good bond (which would suck), at least she knows she tried.

Good attitudes spread. So do bad attitudes.

Teach her your number and teach her 911 (include proper use). IE if she's left alone in the house for a long time - some children may use this if someones in the bathroom for a long time. Teach her about finding a trusted adult, a police officer as an example if they are out. Just make sure she's informed of what's OK and what's not. Don't say "if your father grabs your arm", say "if anyone - adult or child hurts you go to someone you trust". That kind of thing. Find some books. That would probably be the best way.

Don't let her know you're freaked out about this. That could be the worst thing.

she is telling me things like my dad took me out and not that i care but her grandmother or father did not go with and they are supposed to be supervising so do they or do they not have to go with? because i was unaware of if i had to leave her there the grandma said she had to work and so dod the grandfather i was not aware of wether or not i still had to leave her and when he dropped her off he was alone i dont know how the supervised works when hes providing transportation.Both grandparents know that they are supposed to be supervising and she was left alone with him numerous times. I am concerned about this and with his visitation on halloween when he picks her up that he will not be supervised if that is the case what are my rights do i have to let her go? she was rather excited i dont want her to not go with him i think it would be great if they develpoed a relationship but i want him to be responsible while he has her.when i dropped her off he was yelling and screaming at me as soon as i walked thru the door that i cant discuss any of this with his mom and dad that what he does with her is none of my concern is that true while the visitation is supposed to be supervised?

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OK. Don't walk through the door. Release the child from the car - or from a sidewalk in front of the home. Don't walk through the door.

It's hard to prove that someone that shouldn't be transporting children is. Unless you have pictures. My ex 1wk after a DUI suspension was transporting our daughter with his parents "blessing". Grr. As my attorney says, "Prove it". I can't and they won't be truthful.

Supervised is supervised. Grandma and Grandpa should always be around. But I think you need to relax a bit.

I stated before if you know they are gone you could call the police to have them check on her - since supervision is required and it is not happening. But I don't think you should do this unless you really have reason to fear for her safety.

Calm down, or talk to an attorney.

i am calm for the most part i guess i wish he was more responsible toward her and her feelings about things.I guess i just wish that he could put himself aside and work with me instead of against me for her sake.i just wanted him to help make this an easier transisition for her she has enough on her plate you know when should it just stop for her sake.i think shes been thru enough and seen enough.I cry for her he was abusive to me but not the kids i always stood in the way but i can/could never prove that he was/is a danger to her without him actually doing something to her.im tired of the typical response that everyone keeps saying about him and his girlfriend trying to play mom and dad to her. Deep down inside i hope that shes more responsible than he is and that she protects my daughter.i dont know her therefore will not pass judgement on her.im afriad for my daughter i hope he she will never see it if he does those things to his girlfriend that he did to me.it breaks my heart that him not being willing to work with me you know who does it hurt her simple things like halloween she had already had plans to go trick or treating with my brothers kids and he wont let her what is halloween to an adult nothing really its for the kids whats a couple of hours that i wouldve let her stay longer why hurt her its dumb and selfish

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I've been told that the "bucking" of the other parent and complete refusal to respect the other parent gets a LOT better after 2 years. I'm on the 3 year mark of my ex bucking everything I say/do. But...the last two have been in court. So probably two years after courts final...if it ever is.