ALL MOTHER MUST READ!!!

[PapaJohn]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I hate to see all of lumped into the same category.

Go back and read my initial post again please. I did NOT lump all women into the same category. I was very specific about the type of women I was addressing.

Well isn't that funny...Papajohn, rotflmao.

I agree, "fathers" should have rights. What I am about to say is in no way directed at all the father's out there. The one's who read this will know who I am talking to. Sorry as excuses for parents....including deadbeat mothers!

As a parent, if you truly want "rights" to your child...get up off your ass and fight for them. I am not talking child support. Child support is not an admitting fee to be a parent. Visitations and child support do not have one thing to do with the other.

Personally, I am quite sick of deadbeat parents sitting back and complaining about the person who is raising their child. They want to whine, cry, and moan, yet they don't make any effort to play a part in the lives of said child(ren). It really gets under my skin when the absent parent lets their partner ( be it girlfriend, boyfriend, new wife, or new husband) be the one who contacts their childs mother/father to arrange things. In a court of law the non-parent partner is a legal stranger and should mind his/her own business.

Don't complain and not take action. If you really gave a **** about "your rights" then you would do something about it. There is really no excuse not to help raise your own child. I have heard them all. Can't afford an attorney? So what? You can spend money on other things, clothing , ciggarettes, whatever. And you mean to tell me you can't pay the fee to file a motion? You need to take responsibility. And I am willing to bet PAPAJOHN you haven't gotten up off your ass, yet you complain. Are you one of those ******bag absentee's that are raising another womans child(ren) but chose not to take care of your own? Wouldn't surprise me.

STFU and do something!

[tbyte]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

STFU and do something!

Brave words from and Unregistered troll.

why should I register? I don't post here usually. Just read for advice that may or may not be helpful to me. Unlike this post that it utter bull****. Like yourself. Eat me.

unregistered,I am not one of those mothers,i do not want or have ever gone on welfare, not all woman are like that, but i am sorry for your situation
Papajohn, unfortunatley, there are still men out there who's minds are set back in the fifties.

[angel1964]

No all woman dont want to chop the guys you know what off and feed it to him but there are a ,ot of them out there. When a couple goes into a marriage it is supposed to be equal. When they come out of a marriage the courts rape the father. They dont get half, they get screwed and the courts are on the womans side. A man who does what he is supposed to do gets the shaft all the way around. They lose everything. A lot of woman use their kids as pawns and play them against the father. I have seen it quite often. They say there best interest is for the child but its not, its for them. Especailly because they dont want to get off their lazy buts and work. As far as someone staying home to take care of their kids instead of working, guess what? I dont know any family today who can live on one pay so why should the man have to work his but off to support his ex while she sits home and eats bon bons and watches soaps all day while the kid is in the bedroom or outside playing. Get off your lazy but and go to work. You help make the kids now help support them. It is not only the fathers responsibility to take care of these kids. Woman cry poverty when they are going through a divorce, they cry what ever they can not to have to work or do what they should do to support thrmselves and their kids. So go get a job

Originally Posted by angel1964

she sits home and eats bon bons and watches soaps all day

ROTFL

Someone watches a little too much "Married With Children."

[PapaJohn]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well isn't that funny...Papajohn, rotflmao.

I agree, "fathers" should have rights. What I am about to say is in no way directed at all the father's out there. The one's who read this will know who I am talking to. Sorry as excuses for parents....including deadbeat mothers!

As a parent, if you truly want "rights" to your child...get up off your ass and fight for them. I am not talking child support. Child support is not an admitting fee to be a parent. Visitations and child support do not have one thing to do with the other.

Personally, I am quite sick of deadbeat parents sitting back and complaining about the person who is raising their child. They want to whine, cry, and moan, yet they don't make any effort to play a part in the lives of said child(ren). It really gets under my skin when the absent parent lets their partner ( be it girlfriend, boyfriend, new wife, or new husband) be the one who contacts their childs mother/father to arrange things. In a court of law the non-parent partner is a legal stranger and should mind his/her own business.

Don't complain and not take action. If you really gave a **** about "your rights" then you would do something about it. There is really no excuse not to help raise your own child. I have heard them all. Can't afford an attorney? So what? You can spend money on other things, clothing , ciggarettes, whatever. And you mean to tell me you can't pay the fee to file a motion? You need to take responsibility. And I am willing to bet PAPAJOHN you haven't gotten up off your ass, yet you complain. Are you one of those ******bag absentee's that are raising another womans child(ren) but chose not to take care of your own? Wouldn't surprise me.

STFU and do something!

ROTFLMFAO.... Tbyte said it quite well... TROLL...
You OBVIOUSLY haven't read many of my posts here. If you did you would have kept your lousy mouth shut. I have 3 children with my wife who I have been with for 17 years (married for 13). The child I am fighting for is my grandson. I am helping my oldest son in his battle against the corrupt family courts and the corrupt Children's Aid Society and a vindictive, abusive, neglectful mother.
I am NOT complaining, I am stating how it is!!!! And I am indeed doing something about it as is my son. The C.A.S. got involved because the MOTHER left her child unattended while she was over 100 yards away participating in an argument and then she had the brains to go pick up her child and carry him in her arms right into the face of a violent male who had just attempted to stab someone with a rusty rail road spike. Yet with the evidence of this, and evidence of the mother's abuse and neglect of the child C.A.S. still fights to keep the child with the mother even though they have admitted they have evidence that our son is indeed a good father and have even stated this to the courts.

You do NOT even want to get into this with me. I have done many years worth of research into this even before we had this situation thrust upon us and I KNOW what I am talking about. You'll just end up looking very stupid.

[PapaJohn]

Originally Posted by angel1964

No all woman dont want to chop the guys you know what off and feed it to him but there are a ,ot of them out there. When a couple goes into a marriage it is supposed to be equal. When they come out of a marriage the courts rape the father. They dont get half, they get screwed and the courts are on the womans side. A man who does what he is supposed to do gets the shaft all the way around. They lose everything. A lot of woman use their kids as pawns and play them against the father. I have seen it quite often. They say there best interest is for the child but its not, its for them. Especailly because they dont want to get off their lazy buts and work. As far as someone staying home to take care of their kids instead of working, guess what? I dont know any family today who can live on one pay so why should the man have to work his but off to support his ex while she sits home and eats bon bons and watches soaps all day while the kid is in the bedroom or outside playing. Get off your lazy but and go to work. You help make the kids now help support them. It is not only the fathers responsibility to take care of these kids. Woman cry poverty when they are going through a divorce, they cry what ever they can not to have to work or do what they should do to support thrmselves and their kids. So go get a job

You just earned tons of respect from me. You are so right. And it goes both ways, for fathers as well. My wife and I were terrified when we heard our son's girlfriend was pregnant. They were 15 at the time (16 when the child was born). We had no idea if these kids were ready but we were 100% willing to be there to help them. It turned out our son matured greatly and accepted the responsibility whole heartedly. He decided to start home schooling so he could be home with the child, plus got a job to help pay for his child, and has turned into a great father. The mother on the other hand... She quit school to just stay home and do nothing. Is sitting on welfare that comes in the child's name yet she spends all the money on herself. She is constantly asking us (no not her own parents but us) to loan her money for baby food, formula, diapers, clothes, etc.... Our son is NOT collecting a government check. He is doing it on his own with help from us, his parents. He has everything the child needs, food, formula, clothes, toys, etc..... If our son can do all this working two days a week (bringing home about $75 a week), still do his schooling, and still be there for his son, then why can the mother not supply food, formula, clothes, toys, diapers, etc.... when she gets over $600 per month from the government. This girl and her lawyer are trying to soak our son out of every penny he has while trying to rip away every minute they can with his son just so the girl can continue to sit of her lazy ass and do nothing and spend all this money on herself while her child goes without. Our own sons had to do with a lot less this past Christmas because we were forced to buy TWO snow suits for the baby, TWO pairs of winter boots, and TWO sets of warm clothing (several suits) for the baby because the mother refused to buy any of this and the child was forced to go out in the cold with his mother without proper winter clothing. So we were forced to buy stuff for the baby for our place AND the mother's place even though SHE was the one who was receiving money from the government to supply this stuff.
We have spoken to the courts, and we have spoken to welfare about this and they both have told us that they can not force the mother to spend the money on specific items. When she gets her check she is allowed to spend it as she sees fit. We even have a drug dealer who lives next door to this girl who is willing to go into court and testify and submit the bank stamped welfare check that this girl gave him to pay for pot but the court will not accept it or allow him to testify. That is how bad this mother is, that a DRUG DEALER is so disgusted with her he is willing to put himself at risk to testify against her because he hates seeing what she is doing to this child.
It's a very long and very hard battle but we are all sticking it out til the end. On July 2nd we will know how the court is going to react to the evidence of the lies and corruption of the Children's Aid Society, and of the mother. If they don't do the right thing we already have several lawyers waiting to file several lawsuits against C.A.S. and the courts and the judges and C.A.S. lawyers.

[PapaJohn]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

ROTFL

Someone watches a little too much "Married With Children."

Actually, studies have already proven that Married With Children was one of the most accurate portrayals of a real life family on television.