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In March of 2007 Cps took my daughter WRONGFULLY! there were accusations that my husband beat my daughter who is 15 months now, there were pictures of bruising on my daughter's back witch looked like makeup to me, my husband would never beat my child cps ruined my life by taking my child. It's been a year since she was taken, and as soon as a year came a long our case worker set a motion for adoption witch was rejected. Cps plays games they say so much about you that is not true for instance that i neglected my daughter & that i drank while i was pregnant witch is totally untrue but they still keep spewing out lies!! They made us go through so much they made us take parenting classes, do ua's twice a week that was when they first took her, now their was the Dependency case witch at first i disagreed to but i lawyer kept saying 'do you think that is the right thing to do'? so i agreed to dependency. for people who don't know Dependency is basically agreeing or disagreeing, you are agreeing to a trial to get your child back or you disagree and give up your rights as a parent and they make you do services. As far as services go they are making me go to counseling, marriage counseling, parenting classes & anger management for my husband witch he does not need. We have been to court so many times and nothing ever happens we sit their all day and all we do is sign papers witch was a waste of time. We do see our daughter we see her twice a week. is anyone else in this situation or has advice for me i want to know will i ever get my daughter back?
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It may help to further document the case and prove that these things did not occur--even if you have agreed to some parts of this, the staff and courts etc. may feel better if they know that no issues really existed or that it was not certain.
It is a bit hard to imagine that any person would use make-up to fake a bruise on the child. That would be very provable and is fraud. Who would have possibly done that?...and why? |
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i don't know why someone would do that i think the pictures were altered. i did not alter or put makeup on my child. My husband is not a violent person but of course cps does not believe anything we say, my husband was offered a lie detector test, but his lawyer said not to take it but i think he should have taken it to prove he is innocent
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i don't know why someone would do that i think the pictures were altered. i did not alter or put makeup on my child. My husband is not a violent person but of course cps does not believe anything we say, my husband was offered a lie detector test, but his lawyer said not to take it but i think he should have taken it to prove he is innocent
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Don't give up--take whatever classes etc. they demand and keep pushing the issue, and get this whole nightmare behind you.
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My daughter in Jasper County Newton Iowa was wronfully taken away from me. This is a long story but I need help. I have been raising my two girls since the divorce in 1999. Until now I have been an upstanding citazen of our state of Iowa for almost 20 years with only two traffic tickets. My ex husband called DHS and told them all kinds of lies and that is what got this night mare started. Due to this my name has been ruined and has been put on the child abuse list with our warning from DHS, and 98% of their reports are not founded lies and hearsay. My older one is 18 and on her own but my so called friends from church have her, and DHS believes every word they say and won't believe a word when I have not lied to them. I want my daughter back but I am also being ruined what do I do? I don't have a lot of money. My ex husband who gave her alcohol and smoked pot around her DHS is doing nothing to him but me just because I left her home alone she is 12 and looks like she is 16, and only left her for a couple hours at a time, and called her every hour to make sure she was alright. Why am I being crucified. I admited my wrong doing and am making it so when I do have my visits with her if the care takers are not home I won't leave her for a second until someone gets there. DHS is rail roading me and I do not know what to do. If someone can help please email poston_kathy@hotmail.com
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iam so sorry what state are you from iam a grand mother of 13 grand kids and cps also took 4 of my grand babys that lived here with me and there dad mother left them 9 years ago and cps worker got a hold of her and now she is in the pitcher i got them back in dec o7 had them for 5 months and cps worker came again and removed them from me saying that i let my son visit the kids too much 1 hour a week? now how low an the cps worker be and she told my grand kids lawyer she never liked me and he told the judge at court and he did not say anything and no the judge did not give them back to me my son is still trying to get them back and cps gave him a list of classes he needs to do and she also lied in court but they belive her and would not let the kids say how they feel about her i live in calif and i think the courts are real hard out her all i can advise you to do is pray to the lord and forgive everyone that has hurt you and your family like mines god will deal with them because god does not like ugly and liers and people who hurt our lil ones take care and god bless here is my email if you would like to talk annnalerma@aol.com okay
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Does CPS have a doctors report stating abuse??? I don't know about the US but here in Ontario Canada if the Children's Aid Society accuses a parent of physical abuse they are bound by law to provide photo evidence of the injuries, and a doctor's report of the injuries along with the doctor's opinion on how the injuries may have occurred. |
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OK, first of all... you have to stop saying "altered pictures" unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have been altered. If you keep using that phrase without 100% irrefutable proof the court will look at you as a conspiracy theorist and a kook. A perfect example of this is actually a case that went AGAINST C.A.S. right here in my own city. A couple had 100% proof that their child was being abused while in a foster home that C.A.S. placed the child in. The C.A.S. lawyer went into court and tried to make the parents look like paranoid morons and claimed the injuries to the child were "phantom bruises" (the C.A.S. lawyer's actual words). The parents submitted to the court photo and video evidence and a doctor's report of the injuries, and an audio tape of a conversation the parents had with a C.A.S. worker and the C.A.S. lawyer right in the foster home during a visit in which they discussed specific injuries on the child. The C.A.S. lawyer and worker both claimed they had no idea where the injuries came form but in the tape they were clear acknowledging witnessing these injuries at the time, and during one segment in the tape the worker and the lawyer touched bruises and other injuries on the child and asked the child if they hurt when they touched them and the child said yes. This made the C.A.S. lawyer and worker look like complete idiots. However, this can also be used the other way. If you claim these are altered photos but can not prove it then you look bad. Next, look up the laws in your area regarding proof of abuse regarding CPS apprehensions. As I said, here in Ontario Canada the C.A.S. is required by law to have 100% tangible evidence of abuse and a doctor's report stating injuries are caused by abuse. The next thing C.A.S. has to prove is when and where the abuse took place and in most cases a clear pattern of abuse to corroborate the current accusations. Now, in our particular case we have total proof our grandson is being abused by his mother. C.A.S. continues to deny any abuse by the mother and the worker actually stated in two different affidavits that 1, she had no idea the child was hospitalized twice due to neglect on the mother's part. This is totally proven a lie as we have the doctor's report on hand and it specifically states the doctor contacted that specific C.A.S. worker regarding the incidents approximately a month before the worker wrote the affidavit. And 2, the worker claims she visited the mother at her home and saw our grandson on a specific date and the child had absolutely no injuries. Yet we have a time and date stamped video of the mother dropping the child off at our home approximately 15 minutes after this worker says she left the mother's home and there is a very clear, very large, very dark bruise on the child's forehead that is about a day or two old. The bruise was bad enough that it worried us so we took the child to the clinic and now have a doctor's report that states the bruise was at least two days old at the time (which proves the worker lied when she said there were no injuries when she saw the child) and that the bruise could only have been caused by a pretty hard blow to the head. We asked the doctor if the bruise was consistent with a child who could have stumbled and fell against something while learning to walk (which the child was doing at the time) and the doctor specifically stated NO this bruise was NOT consistent with learning to walk as a stumble or fall learning to walk would not present enough force to cause such a bruise unless the child fell from about two or three feet above the ground. The doctor stated this in his report and again the worker looks like a complete idiot and liar. When it comes to C.A.S. (or CPS in the states) and fighting them be very vigilant. Keep very accurate records. Do a lot of research and if it's legal where you are video tape and audio record EVERYTHING!!! Here in Ontario Canada it is completely legal to audio and video tape in your home and also outside your home unless you are in a location that specifically has signs that state you can not do so. Record all calls as well. Get everything a CPS worker says or does on audio and video tape tape. Just to let you know... My family is now in a bitter WAR with C.A.S. because they illegally kidnapped our oldest son's son and took him to his mother with absolutely no legal or logical reason. The worker lied to a justice of the peace to get an apprehension warrant to take the child from our home. She claimed I was violent and a danger to my grandson. These accusations have now been proven 100% false and we now have the worker, her supervisor, and the Manager of Children's Services on video tape, and audio tape and also the words of the worker herself in affidavits she submitted to the court admitting that they had and have no proof that I am violent or a danger to my grandson but in fact they now have evidence that I am NOT violent and that I am in fact very good with children and trusted by not just family members (including the child's mother and her family) but also by neighbors and friends to watch their children when they need sitters because they know I am great with kids and kids love me. It has been, and may likely will be, a long and hard battle. We have researched everything that pertains to our case and been very diligent in knowing the laws and keeping records. In the long run, C.A.S. only helped us dig the hole we will bury them in but in most cases it's not this easy and you have to fight hard. Do NOT sign ANYTHING CPS asks you to sign without completely reading it and understanding it. Have your lawyer read it as well. Make sure our lawyer is trustworthy. We have now fired TWO lawyers that screwed our son around and mislead him about the laws regarding C.A.S. and custody. If we hadn't done our research we wouldn't even have known these lawyers were screwing our son. Bottom line... Be vigilant, be diligent, be prepared by doing your research, and be very careful!!!! Last edited by PapaJohn : 06-14-2008 at 11:24 AM. |
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